What's the hardest style to overcome overall?

Tall long armed fighters that know how to use their height and reach

 

I’d generally take the attribute of superior hand speed over any particular style. That’s maybe the hardest obstacle to overcome for most.

 

Boxer/Puncher makes sense. The other one that fighters must dread is an on form switch hitting, hard punching elusive style. Punches coming in from everywhere you don’t expect must be a nightmare. More so if there’s a good chance of getting badly hurt if one gets through. A young Naz Hamed must of been an absolute nightmare opponent.

 

Spoilers. If you're not good enough, you'll lose in the most frustrating, fruitless and embarrassing fashion. If you are good enough, you'll still seem somewhat out of depth and look inept at times. It is very hard to find even an ATG who was 'good' against spoilers, much less 'destructive'. Even Roberto Duran had his struggles with them. They lead to performances which some could use as unjustified criticism towards a fighters style of Boxing due to their showing. They will nearly always lower your stock, even if you win.

Example: Jofre vs Miranda I, II and III. Though a win (and draws), Eder was made to look 'bad' by the negative Miranda.

 

Old Hopkins, Ward.

 

At an ATG / very good level I find it hard to list 'pure' spoilers (I'm sure there are a few, but I cannot think at the moment), but I would say many fighters had spoiler attributes and could really turn it on when needed. Guys such as Griffith, Hopkins, Mamby, Angott, Young and Giardello are some names who could makes things dreadfully awkward for their opposition and really slow things down with mauling, pot shotting and veteran tactics.

Below that level, I think obvious examples would be John Ruiz and Johnny Nelson.

 

I don’t think boxer-puncher is a style, per se, either. Because you can’t say ‘my style is puncher, I want to learn to box in a way that I can knock people out with one shot.’ You can’t.

I don’t think there is any style that is universally better against all other styles.

 

Winky Wright high guard type style with a good jab. Besides the Vasquez fight it was a long while before anyone looked "good" against him.

 

1) a Hard Hitting Stylish Counter Puncher, basically a Slick Cagey BOXER/fighter... Lloyd Marshall, JJW type.

2) after that the Squat BULL Strong, Digger, Brawler Puncher... Cerdan, Qawi, Tyson type fighter

3) the Beautiful Pure Boxer - Joe Louis, SRR, Leonard, Camacho and many, many others.

1 & 3 are often found together, but you get my points.

tall Rangy Hard Hitters too, Steele, Saddler, Hearns types...

in between 1 & 2, but not Squat, JCC, GGG types, strong, punchers and hold the Ring types...

 

In general, I would say boxer-movers who are southpaw.

 

Swarmers but thats just my experience

 

It's hard to argue against a well rounded boxer puncher. As long as they have good fundamentals and above average power and hand speed. If they are sorely lacking in any of the three, each of the main styles can exploit it.

-For example, a boxer puncher who has mediocre or weak power can get run over by a heavy handed slugger or can be miserable attempting to keep volume punchers off of them.

-A boxer puncher who lacks speed can end up chasing movers and outside guys around helplessly.

-A boxer puncher who lacks fundamentals can get picked apart by technicians, defensive fighters, and counter punchers.

However, the opposite is also true.

A boxer puncher who has good ratings in these 3 stats can hold their own with each of the main boxing styles--essentially keeping up with or even beating them at their own game. It can be a daunting task to try to overcome someone who brings so many tools to the table.

Often, the longest reigning champions are boxer punchers or at least have a more well rounded game plan rather than exclusively relying on just one style. Volume punchers often burn themselves out due to having such a draining style that requires tons of stamina and aggression. Sluggers are very unlikely to have long reigns due to their lack of defense and/or stamina. Counter punchers and defensive fighters can sometimes struggle to avoid getting robbed on the scorecards even if they seemingly put on a clinic--and on the other hand, they can be a little too passive and cautious which leads to them rightfully not getting a verdict in close fights. Movers and outside fighters may enjoy success if they have good reach/speed etc but this is a less reliable style as they get older and their legs begin to lose their steam. A boxer puncher tends to get the most mileage and less draw backs over a long stretch of time--Joe Louis being the most successful example.

 

True, but then you have weirdos like Robert Guerrero who fight aggressively on the front foot despite lacking real power.

 

How hypocritical