What's the hardest style to overcome overall?

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  1. Trevor Diamante

    Trevor Diamante New Member Full Member

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    I think that's dangerous. At 6 6 6 5 Fundora will never have great physical strength nor musculature to absorb punishment, particularly to his head or body. Attributes make up styles, so he should really be an out-fighter, but I haven't seem him fight yet.
     
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  2. William Walker

    William Walker Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Sugar Ray Robinson?
     
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  3. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist Full Member

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    Floyd Mayweather is the only boxer who goes by that.
     
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  4. Bronze Tiger

    Bronze Tiger Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Tall long armed fighters that know how to use their height and reach
     
  5. Saintpat

    Saintpat Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I’d generally take the attribute of superior hand speed over any particular style. That’s maybe the hardest obstacle to overcome for most.
     
  6. Colonel Sanders

    Colonel Sanders Pounchin powar calculateur Full Member

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    There's a lot of quick handed mediocre fighters out there. And as you said, it's an attribute, not a style. You're kind of dodging the thread question.
     
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  7. Cookiedough

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    Boxer/Puncher makes sense. The other one that fighters must dread is an on form switch hitting, hard punching elusive style. Punches coming in from everywhere you don’t expect must be a nightmare. More so if there’s a good chance of getting badly hurt if one gets through. A young Naz Hamed must of been an absolute nightmare opponent.
     
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  8. McGrain

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    :lol: this has now become ridiculous.
     
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  9. Father Elijah

    Father Elijah New Member Full Member

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    Spoilers. If you're not good enough, you'll lose in the most frustrating, fruitless and embarrassing fashion. If you are good enough, you'll still seem somewhat out of depth and look inept at times. It is very hard to find even an ATG who was 'good' against spoilers, much less 'destructive'. Even Roberto Duran had his struggles with them. They lead to performances which some could use as unjustified criticism towards a fighters style of Boxing due to their showing. They will nearly always lower your stock, even if you win.

    Example: Jofre vs Miranda I, II and III. Though a win (and draws), Eder was made to look 'bad' by the negative Miranda.
     
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  10. Colonel Sanders

    Colonel Sanders Pounchin powar calculateur Full Member

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    Interesting. Do you mind putting a few names up that fit that description?
     
  11. Bumnard_Hopkins

    Bumnard_Hopkins Burger King banned Full Member

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    Old Hopkins, Ward.
     
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  12. Father Elijah

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    At an ATG / very good level I find it hard to list 'pure' spoilers (I'm sure there are a few, but I cannot think at the moment), but I would say many fighters had spoiler attributes and could really turn it on when needed. Guys such as Griffith, Hopkins, Mamby, Angott, Young and Giardello are some names who could makes things dreadfully awkward for their opposition and really slow things down with mauling, pot shotting and veteran tactics.

    Below that level, I think obvious examples would be John Ruiz and Johnny Nelson.
     
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  13. Colonel Sanders

    Colonel Sanders Pounchin powar calculateur Full Member

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    After his fight against Calzaghe, Kessler said Joe had no style of his own, that his style was to spoil the style of his opponent. I thought it was a very apt remark.
     
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  14. Saintpat

    Saintpat Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I don’t think boxer-puncher is a style, per se, either. Because you can’t say ‘my style is puncher, I want to learn to box in a way that I can knock people out with one shot.’ You can’t.

    I don’t think there is any style that is universally better against all other styles.
     
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  15. Colonel Sanders

    Colonel Sanders Pounchin powar calculateur Full Member

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    Good point. But the fact that you have power will influence the way you fight, hence effecting your style, or forging it? In boxer puncher, the style is boxer, the puncher part highlights the fact you have ko power to go along with your boxing style. As a style, puncher means you come forward trying to land and relying on mainly your power. But without that base power attribute, you can't have that puncher style. Like Morrison.

    But you might be right. I'm trying to get my head around it.

    I actually always thought styles were more about limitations myself.
     
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