What's this bs about Tank Davis being overrated?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by NoChin, Dec 24, 2023.


  1. bjl12

    bjl12 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Tank Davis is a 30 year old prospect. He avoided Loma, Teo, Devin, and now Shakur.

    He has some decent wins but has yet to fight a top guy in his entire career...which is why he's a 30 year old prospect.
     
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  2. BubblesUK

    BubblesUK Doesn't buy hypejobs Full Member

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    Talent and potential are interesting to talk about with prospects with the majority of their careers ahead of them...

    But for fighters in their prime who are high profile and financially relevant enough to get good fights made?
    No, it doesn't matter what we think they could've been - they have every opportunity to prove it... If they don't, it's an indication that either fighter or their management doesn't believe as much as their fans do.

    With respect, I don't buy this...

    For starters there's a professional angle where fighters don't tend to slag each other off - partly as a courtesy and partly because you never know whether you might want to fight.

    But also... Because plenty of unproven fighters have been backed to the hilt by their peers as well as their fans and been exposed when they stepped up - it wouldn't be anything new.

    But what value does passing the eye test have when opposition isn't as good as it could/should be?
    It's much easier to look good when your opponents aren't that good!

    The resume question is not just a question of when his resume will catch up to his ability (or hype, depending on your viewpoint) but whether it ever will, surely?
     
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  3. northpaw

    northpaw Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    You're the type of critic I was referring to when I crafted this....................
     
  4. BubblesUK

    BubblesUK Doesn't buy hypejobs Full Member

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    I'm easily pleased and easily won round - cold hard evidence is all it takes.

    There's plenty around here that no amount of evidence will influence their opinions, and plenty around here that overplay their hand or straight up invent evidence to try and defend their pet fighter - you're not normally one to overplay things, but I do think here you're making excuses for Tank.

    To each their own, of course...
     
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  5. northpaw

    northpaw Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I'm not saying that in a disrespectful manner, I don't stoop like that on here. My meaning was just I think some over-disregard him, I think Tank polarizes a lot of people (and I actually do get why he does). Thanks for not being bratty about it, disagreements and seeing things from different angles are sometimes just like that. :Saeufer:
     
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  6. howard29

    howard29 Member Full Member

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    Having read all the replies, I agree with most, and will add that with the Saudis now being in the mix, hopefully they will throw some cheddar at this to get him in the ring with Stevenson/Haney/Lopez or even Loma I'd be happy with even if he's past his best.
     
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  7. BubblesUK

    BubblesUK Doesn't buy hypejobs Full Member

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    Likewise, it's always more interesting when disagreements are civil and sane (often not the way, especially the latter!)... And after all, what's the point even being here otherwise?

    And I do get your point - it's easy to take certain arguments too far, the one about failure to make resume being evidence of fraudulence for example...
    And I wasn't saying Tank's a fraud, or that he's not a good fighter, by using that argument - my disagreement is primarily around his presence on P4P lists (which I think we'd agree his limited resume is an issue for).

    As you say, Tank definitely polarizes people... I think that's often the way with fighters who get rated much more highly (or nowhere near highly enough) for what their resumes show.

    I guess there's also a tendency for highly rated prospects to get rated highly on the basis of what people think they can be - and a question over at what point it's fair to stop cutting them slack in that basis?
    Haney being an obvious contemporary example - he was derided as an email champion who lacked the power to truly compete by some, and as a talented technical boxer by others - some obviously stopped cutting him the prospects slack earlier than others... And as much as I struggle to respect the enormous size and weight advantages he fights with, he clearly wouldn't need that slack anymore.
     
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  8. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    His resume is smoke & mirrors central when you hold it up to the light. Very heavy on WBA regular champs, shot old former champs, fighters who were dragged up in weight, and very light on prime legit champs who were champs at the weight he fought them at and the best at those respective weights he fought them at.

    It's a patently obvious grift designed to dupe the casuals into believing he's a genuine three-weight world champion when in reality IIRC the only legit champ he's beaten who was a legit champ at the weight he fought them at is Pedraza and Rolly subsequently went on to become a champ at the weight above after he fought him but we all know that was just a whole lot of smoke & mirrors too.

    That's not to say Twink isn't an excellent fighter. But what it is, is what it is. And he's been shamelessly ducking Loma since the Bronze Age

    His best win in over a decade long career is still to this day Pedraza, a fighter Loma took on as a tune up seven months after shoulder surgery when not near 100% albeit a tune up which was also a unification match up. Allow that basin into your abode.
     
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  9. ellerbe

    ellerbe Loyal Member Full Member

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    He went up to 140 to beat much bigger man in Barrios who beat the guy who retired Pac in Ugas. Calling him a 29 year old prospect is ******ed.
     
  10. Braindamage

    Braindamage Baby Face Beast Full Member

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    Davis would no mas a prime Duran in 3 rounds. Duran would simply say "Por favor, no mas senor Tank".
     
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  11. C.J.

    C.J. Boxings Living Legend revered & respected by all Full Member

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    Look at the two characters that liked this post???lol Tank is being looked after & taking no risks When he faces a real challenge we'll see how good he really is
     
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  12. C.J.

    C.J. Boxings Living Legend revered & respected by all Full Member

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    Prime Duran would have Tank for breakfast lol
     
  13. MidniteProwler

    MidniteProwler Fab 4. Mayor of Aussie Boxing Full Member

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    He is a great fighter with elite skills and power. It is the way he is managed that is frustrating.
    I would pick him to beat Haney, Lopez and Shakur but because of his management Leonard Ellerbe and co I don’t think that we will see those fights next year but I hope I am wrong.
     
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  14. Fogger

    Fogger Father, grandfather and big sports fan. Full Member

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    I don't think it is altogether wrong to say that Davis has better one punch power than Duran. Duran had top notch power at lightweight and he certainly hit harder overall but I do think Davis may have better top end power.

    That being said, Manos de Piedra would have no problem taking down Tank head to head because there is much more to boxing than power.
     
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  15. No_name_tard

    No_name_tard Active Member Full Member

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    Tank may have legendary power, but he gets no credit from me until he gets in the ring with someone great and proves it. Much of Tank's hype right now begins with "Tank would...", he's damn near 30.