What's worse: nostalgia or anti-old timer bias?

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  1. maracho

    maracho Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Everbody that ever fought Marciano made abundant quotes concerning how hard he was to hit. :deal

    You think Holmes throws Jabs at a turtles pace? :patsch

    Why do hate Spinks:fire

    At least I am humble enough to back up my arguments:hat
     
  2. maracho

    maracho Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I can show you plenty of fossil and early humans that were just as big and muscular (based on bone size and muscle attachment) as any football player alive today!
     
  3. Butch Coolidge

    Butch Coolidge Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Marciano was hard to hit? That's why there's so many pictures of him with his face half torn off.

    Spinks? Steffen Tengstadd, Anders Ecklund, 91 second blow-out, aged Larry Holmes---and today's heavyweights are supposed to be the worst ever?

    Holmes fighting at a snails pace--I actually saw Holmes fight a few times and most of those fights lacked bad intentions until the last round.

    Appreciate what you have now.
     
  4. Shake

    Shake Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Boxing is very much less popular these days, and as such, the talent pool is smaller. Youth are distracted with them newfangled diddly Ipods and internets. Very few go to such an ancient barbaric thing as a boxing gym and sweat and stuff. It's icky.

    The point I'm trying to make is that it's perfectly logical for boxing to be at a low-point right now in width. There are always sparks -- such as PBF, and we just came off a nice era with Trinidad, De la Hoya, Mosley, Sweet Pea, Barrera, Morales, etc.

    On the other hand some really do believe Marciano could best Lewis -- I'm no Lewis fan, but Marciano was smaller than Frazier. He belongs as much in a ring with Lewis as he does with Bernard Hopkins.

    So it's a bit of give and take -- I find it the more high-profile old fighters are built up too much -- and the low-profile old champions are not given any credit what-so-ever. The gap is enormous. If you are unloved, your abilities and accomplishments are played down and vice versa. Take Ingemarr Johansson, a world-champion that beat Floyd Patterson. I bet if you asked anyone if he would win against Buster Douglas it would give people some pause -- but if you ask them if Floyd Patterson would win, they would be much more eager to confirm it, even though the two examples were very competitive.
     
  5. Cruiser1

    Cruiser1 Champion Emeritus Full Member

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    I got sick of hearing about the old-timers a long time ago. I wanna know how they think a 195 lb. heavyweight from the 40's or 50's would be able to beat a polished 6'6'' 245 lb. guy like Wladimir Klitschko who can crack with both hands. I'm not necessarily referring to marciano either.

    People are still talking about these guys from the 20's and 30's. Man, talk about living in the past.
     
  6. Shake

    Shake Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I always compare them with the lighter weight fighters now. Seems more fair. I mean, Jack Dempsey was just a light-heavyweight.