What's worse when losing: quitting or going out on your shield?

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  1. Arriba

    Arriba Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I agree it is worrisome that he quit rather than go on. As a human I can't say anything about it because that's the way life is sometimes. As a boxing enthusiast though, you always worry when a fighter quits at the first sign of adversity in his career. Maybe he tastes that and decides he never wants to do that again? Who knows.

    Worrisome indeed.
     
  2. cuchulain

    cuchulain Loyal Member Full Member

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    There's no right answer here.

    It depends on the circumstances.

    Gatti quit against Mayweather, and that was a good decision.

    Levander Johnson fought well past the point where he should have quit. He died a few days later. This is an extreme case, but it illustrates the limits of bravery.

    I equate bravery with heart. And in Levander's case, his bravery ended when his recklessness began.


    There are other cases where a fighter was probably able to continue but chose to stop. (Zab Judah in the Clottey fight).



    And there are numerous other examples in between.


    It depends on the circumstances.
     
  3. MAG1965

    MAG1965 Loyal Member banned

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    Well for the fighters health it is better to quit, but for boxing recognition going out on your shield is better.
     
  4. Rico Spadafora

    Rico Spadafora Master of Chins Full Member

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    what kind of question is this? There is NOTHING wrong with going out on your shield. It is what Boxers are SUPPOSED to do.
     
  5. BlueApollo

    BlueApollo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Buddy probably wouldn't have even sent Ortiz out for the sixth.

    Match made in heaven?
     
  6. DemolitionDan

    DemolitionDan ATG and HoF Full Member

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    Quitting is much much much worse.

    Hell it's a sign of honor going out on your shield. If you do get KTFO well at least you didn't quit like a *****.
     
  7. makeitrain

    makeitrain Active Member Full Member

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    If you have to make the decison yourself to quit, than the people in your corner do not know you well enough.
     
  8. MAG1965

    MAG1965 Loyal Member banned

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    I never looked at quitting as a terrible thing, but the greats usually do not quit. But I never insulted anyone who was being beaten up and quit. Duran quit as Leonard started to land head and bodyshots on him and that had something to do with him quitting, although he was not taking a beating yet. But I have the feeling Leonard hits really hard because Duran would not have quit if Ray was a soft puncher. Duran quit for a reason.
     
  9. Main Events

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    We can understand Duran or Cotto. They've fought through adversity at some point of their careers. But for Ortiz, its his first taste of adversity and he quit. Not good for boxing, not good for his confidence either. I say this guy's finished.
     
  10. Farmboxer

    Farmboxer VIP Member Full Member

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    It's easy to say when you are not in the ring.
     
  11. ripcity

    ripcity Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    If I was a trainer and it was not my boxer's night. I would stop it so he can fight and hopefuly win another time. Bravery is great and the fans like it but I have the health of my boxer to look after. If it was me in the ring I would like to think that 1. My trainer knows enough to know how hurt I am. 2. It is one thing to lose and lose badly it is another to be seriousy and permently injured. I know boxing has risks but I don't think it means you have to give your life for it when you don't have to.
     
  12. ripcity

    ripcity Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    For those of you who instest that a boxer when being beat and hurt should go out on their shield. Keep in mind that almost every boxing death was from being repeditvely and not from a single blow.
     
  13. Losfer_Words

    Losfer_Words Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    :goodI don't see how anyone can argue quitting is somehow better.
     
  14. dhenzrae

    dhenzrae A Proud Noypi Full Member

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