Whats wrong with boxing this days!!

The who brings more money to the fight has always been a reality in signing fights since before the 1900 century you naive dingbat.

What are you? A simpleton???

How do you think ticket sales work? Fans pay to see who they want correct?

Wow, you need to pull your head out of your ass before you get too used to it up there.

 

Its just Joshua's fans. Don't worry, boxing always comes full circle.

 

hey dont worry everybody, boxing always comes full circle, lmmfao

Forum comedy.

 

I agree that poor fans are a stain upon boxing. From fair weather fans, to nuthuggers, to haters and trolls. They all suck and belittle the achievements of the fighters that step into the ring by putting their own agenda's over the sport of boxing.

As for the financial aspect of boxing it's a reality of the sport. Boxing drives the sport pure and simple. Those that focus too much on the financials are just as bad as those like the OP who ignore it's significance. All real fans just want the best fights to be made, but the financial aspect of the sport is abused by both sides.

Those looking at only the financials will say fighter A can't get a fight with fighter B because fighter B is asking for too much and ducking. Then those ignoring the financial aspect will say I don't care about financials and that one fighter is using finances as an excuse to duck another, it's the same bull**** answer come at from 2 different perspectives.

 

The biggest issue with boxing in the past 35 years, has been the proliferation of different "world title" belts and bronze, silver and intercontinental belts.

This has made the sport a laughing stock in terms of overall management. There is also the issue of the major organisations not forcing their champions to fight in unifications at the weight, which means we are robbed of seeing the best of the best against each other. Some boxers since the 2000s have been able to spend entire careers cherry picking.

The sport has also not caught up with others in terms of video refereeing and retrospective action. ( For example, Kovalev was repeatedly hit low by Ward, stopped whilst bent double from a low blow and a video referee could have been in the ear of the referee pointing this out if he was missing it. Plus an independent panel should have changed that result to a NC based on an appeal)

A Positive has been the WBSS because it means the best of the best is forced to face each other, and aside from the straps this is what every hardcore fan wants to see.

 

I saw somebody arguing about splits on twitter. Cant remember what the fight was but it was one of those matchroom fanboys.
Lad said don' you want to see the fight? His reply was yes but not at 35%.
I mean ffs!
Yes the money is important but When you have fans talking like this it give promoters an easy out imo.

 

Great reply and you're right. Still even if there were some balance between the Fans and the Financial side of things, it doesn't fix the issues. Honestly its the "Middle" man (Sanctioning, promoters, PR, entourage) that's the cancer. Take those out, the boxers dont have to pay most of their earnings to every Tom, Dick, and Harry so they come to terms much more often. You get the biggest fights cause that's what will make more money, the fighters agree more on a 40/60 split then ever before and then the fans get what they want, driving up the demand. Done.

If you remember when Boxing started to decline IMO was when every fight was some sort of PPV. It became a strain on the Wallet of most average working class to fork out 400 extra Dollar a year for PPV, plus the Cable bill, plus having to pay a major network (HBO or Showtime in the States). That slap in the face was like, "Ok either pick spending your leisure budget on multiple other past times or a PPV every weekend".

 

No. This is utter bs.

 

The financial details always come out. But I haven't heard of fans worrying about who gets paid what since Floyd Marquez. We squabbled over Kovs payday against Ward and Canelos over GG. But this Joshua Wilder and Parker thing has us discussing who deserves what? Wtf. That's usually the last thing that we find out.

 

I will say all the money talk gets boring very quickly. At first it's just another detail to discuss along with, where it will be, who will win etc. But when the fights doesn't happen and all the financial talk becomes done to death over and over again it honestly kills the fight for me.

I got so bored of all the bull**** in the lead up to Mayweather/Pac who deserved what, how someone was going to be tested etc, that when the fight actually happened I really didn't give a **** anymore.

 

I’m a little confused can you elaborate on how the ambiguity surrounding the effectiveness of 3 controversial blows out weighs the progressive depreciation of Kovalevs production in that fight.....are you purposely ignoring all the much more impactful work that Ward put in prior? Kovalev is a hard man but he ultimately folded in that fight had no plan b

Yeah I wouldn’t mind video reviews being implemented at certain points of controversy within a fight. I personally didn’t care for the Kovalev stoppage however he was slowly being systematically broken down that much was obvious.

The replays wouldn’t have warrented NC since the blows were mostly borderline and it seemed as if Kovalev just couldn’t negotiate his offense in a manner that resembled a man that thought he could win. The use of a replay may have encouraged a strict warning to both if you want to be impartial since Kovalev clearly and intentionally stopped the action to complain about two perfectly legal body shots delivered by Ward.

The fans missed out on what should have been a classic, I’m one of the folks that believes the next round would have seen Kovalev TKOd without any room for dispute and contravesey.

 

I don't really understand this.

Any fights that don't happen is because the two parties couldn't agree on terms. Therefore it's only natural to discuss the terms and what they should be for us to determine who is responsible for us not getting the fights we want to see.

 

I dont consider a lot of guys opinions here and it's not personal because I do consider a lot of guys opinions too, and you're one of them. I am nobody but I am somebody. Lol