What's wrong with Deontay Wilder resume?

If I didn't know you better, I'd think this was trolling.

The best of Wilder's generation were...

Joshua
Fury
Parker
Ruiz
Povetkin
Hunter
Whyte
WladKlit
Vitklit

Wilder's big wins are over Stiverne and Ortiz, and he only fought and lost to Fury because he thought Fury was shot at having to come down from 400 pounds or so.

Complete joke of a career.

 

What's wrong with Deontay Wilder's resume?...........What's right with it?

Are we seriously asking this question because you need to be informed or is this rhetorically being thrown out for click bait....

Wilder has 49 pro bouts with only one win over a world champion. He wasn't even fighting ranked opponents leading up to his title shot vs Stiverne. Actually, if I remember correctly, he has just 5 wins over opponents who were ranked in the top 15 of the division. 4 of those wins came from a bout and rematch with Stiverne & Ortiz.....

This is a guy they kept comparing to Mike Tyson's ability. The U.S. so badly wanted themselves another Heavyweight face to represent in boxing that they completely ignored his lack of competition, skills, and even sense of reality at times.

 

To be fair, he did sign to fight Povetkin and it's not his fault the fight didn't take place. Povetkin failed a drug test. Ruiz might have happened if he didn't basically stop caring about his career after the AJ win, both were with PBC at the time. He did fight Fury 3 times, but arguably lost all 3 fights. Parker beat him.

Otherwise, it's pretty light in terms of opponents he fought. He was defending against the #12 ans #14 ranked guys on the WBC list. The day before Whyte's match with Fury, the look on the WBC presidents face when he was confronted about it said it all about why Whyte never got to face Wilder when he first became the mandatory.

 

He should have fought Tony Galento ya bum!

 

He probably genuinely wants to know. He's a bit of a numpty that one.

 

Well, he should have fought Povetkin. What was that busted test for, the same thing Sharapova had, the over the counter thing that was legal for years, definitely not a roid or anything. And the irony is that Wilder was definitely a roider, the bulk this lanky mong put on for the Fury rematches proved that.

He probably ducked Wlad.

The AJ fight is more complex. We don't really know who ducked most during their primes. But later on after Fury he did call for the fight and AJ didn't want it. That's a fact.

Parker and Ruiz are other ones, but again, who ducked who? Parker and Ruiz were notorious for inactivity and 'tune ups'.

 

While you're right, and I don't fault Wilder for not facing Povetkin in the end seeing as he did sign to fight Povetkin in Moscow in 2016, he was happy to fight Luis Ortiz twice, after Ortiz himself had failed a drug test in 2017.

Clearly it wasn't a moral issue of facing a drugs cheat. If Wilder's team had really wanted him to face Povetkin, they would have tried harder to remake the fight.

 

The problem is twofold:
1) Lacking quality (contender) wins.
2) He lost every time he fought anyone good.

The excuse for #2 will be that he was older for Parker and Zhang - and there's some truth in it, but having had only two damaging beatings he shouldn't really have been too shopworn...
And of course, the flipside is that it's very easy to argue that he probably avoided the contenders in his prime precisely BECAUSE he knew he would be likely to lose - he only stepped up when he had little left to lose.

Losing Fury 3 and 1 against a half-fit fighter, no matter how good, tells you just how vast the difference in levels was (if the utter domination of the second bout didn't).

As far as manufactured hype Vs reality goes, it's hard to think of many examples where the gap between the two is larger.

He was an okay fighter - but nowhere near the top 2 billing he was given, belts and bums will create that illusion and certain biases will help build up a huge fan base for it.

 

Not to mention he also chose to fight Fury, who'd popped for Nandrolone, which is more nefarious (in terms of perceived cheating) than anything Pov took.

The obvious difference is Pov at the time was known to be dangerous and would've won... Where Fury was fat, rusty, quite probably shot and would've seemed like a safe cherry to pick.

 

Only 2 Top 10 fighters defeated in 49 fights. Ducking top opposition. Got beat every time he stepped up to the elite level.

 

Yeah that's true as well. Tbh I have a suspicion basically every top level fighter is on some sort of PEDs but that's starting to go off topic

But yes I agree, seems to me that Wilder's team took the convenient option of steering him away from Povetkin, and miscalculated with Fury. At the same time though I give him credit for rematching Fury (twice) because he could have ducked the Fury rematch after 2018 and stayed fighting Breazeale-level opposition

 

True.

I'm not sure it's a noble sense of fair play that made him rematch Fury - it's a combination of delusion (thinking he'd win second time) and ego, in that he couldn't deal with so many people saying (rightly) that he'd lost and been given a gift draw... Same reason he rematched Ortiz - his ego couldn't deal with people saying he should've lost.

 

Absolutely this.

He should have fought Povetkin.

Meldonium is like the weakest of the weak when you are talking borderline PEDs, and he did not in fact 'fail' the test. His test was a positive but UNDER the allowed limits allowing for trace elements that can become unlocked by metabolic processes over time. The fight ought to have gone on.

There's no doubt in my mind that Povetkin would have stopped that hype train dead.