What's wrong with pac's suggestion?

Being that the NSAC doesn't require blood testing at all I think it is entirely possible that nobody even considered requesting that they follow USADA protocol. Also, I highly doubt they would have even taken that idea into consideration being that they have their own set protocol and following anyone else's could be construed as an admission that their own was ****. I think Bob Arum knows this, and offered to let them decide to make it look like he was trying to find some middle ground on this stipulation while in reality he wasn't budging an inch.

As I've said, I like the idea of more stringent testing for everyone. I don't see the state commissions doing anything to make that happen anywhere in the near future, so I'm fine with it being stipulated in the fight contracts if that's what it takes to make it happen. Fight contracts often contain stipulations about ring and glove size, catchweights, weight limit penalties, etc., so why not drug testing?

 

Unless they take a huge amount of blood or somehow seriously **** their arms up with the needles their performance wouldn't be affected at all.

You should stick with Manny's excuse that he doesn't like it and "thinks it may weaken him" because the idea that a routine blood test is going to cause serious physical damage and hinder a fighters performance physically is flat out rediculous.

 

can you name them? my wife is a doctor and i would like to look them up.

from the information out there, Pac agrees to 30days before the fight, no less than 2days before, anytime right after the fight for blood tests AND "anytime" for urine tests.

i don't see why he won't get caught if he was juicing.

if you are a doctor/scientist, please give me a legitimate source and the science behind this...i would like to educate myself rather than reading people's opinion here.

 

Roach said one thing, Pacquiao another, and now we're back to square one with Arum saying that he'll only let the NSAC dictate the terms (they take two scheduled **** tests, right before and right after the fight).

Good luck with a doctor/scientist replying with a legit source.

 

so what you're saying is EVERYSINGLE BOXING MATCH IN THE HISTORY OF BOXING ISNOW UNDER QUESTION AS THE PRESENT TESTING METHOD ARE EASY TO CHEAT.

Why aren't people asking Mosely for these tests? He has a previous record of using steroids. If Pac has to have these tests done then SO DOES THE WHOLE OF BOXING.

 

Yes, they are pretty damn easy to cheat, and for that reason coupled with the fact that some have been caught I'm sure many have gotten away with cheating over the years.

They have. Zab Judah asked Mosley for these tests. Shane told him to **** himself and the fight didn't happen. Also, more accurately Shane admitted to using EPO "without knowing what it was".

He clearly doesn't have to, and it looks like he's opting not to, but if he did it wouldn't mean that the whole of boxing would have to.

 

Hey, my point is...if some posters are saying that the proposal of Top Rank about testing is no good because of certain PEDs that can be used and flushed out by fight night, then give me that substance and i will research myself to see if such a drug can be flushed out of an athlete's system where testing right after they announce the winner won't detect it.

i am not an expert, but no one seems to know what PED can do that.

 

There are plenty of them depending on how big of a window the testing schedule leaves open. The NSAC's standard protocol is only two scheduled **** tests (one a couple days before and one right after the fight). I don't believe any of this **** can stay detectable in your system for even 30 days. Add to that the fact that there are effective flushing methods and you're probably looking at a much shorter timeframe than that.

You should probably start by finding a list of banned substances and searching their names individually to see what you can come up with as far as how long they can stay detectable in your system.

 

:deal

 

The NSAC protocol is not two urine test but rather two blood test. One 30 days before the fight to test for hepatitis and another after. the urine test is random.

Here is another thread with regards to NSCA :

http://www.eastsideboxing.com/forum/showthread.php?t=195687

The fact that Mayweather's totally by-passed NSAC (read the excerpts wherein the NSAC stated that schaefer did not ask NSAC for concessions or modifications to the doping tests), meaning that scahefer did not even request that NSAC would do different protocol raises the question of the impartiality of the USADA. Does GBP have an inside man at the USADA that could tamper with blood evidence, because their insistence that only USADA could do the tests is narrow-minded. Granting thatn the Mayweather's like the protocol of USADA, the simply could have asked the NSAC to adopt that one, with an independent laboratory doing the testing of the blood collected.

To those morons who says that blood test is just a blood tests, with only 5 ml of blood taken - there are a number of complications associated with blood collection that to dismiss it as nothing is plainly simpleton approach.

Bruising, nerve injury, infection, muscle pains are common.

 

my god the floydettes have suddenly become experts of peds, Hgh and steroids

 

Not according to that thread. He says that they do a fight night urine test, and that they may have been able to take more urine tests if they were petitioned and agreed to.

Bruising and some pain may be common, but infection and nerve injury? They use sterile needles and swab the arm to avoid infection, and nerve injury is not a common result of a blood test. Come on...

 

Blood tests are done before every fight. But the reasoning behind the blood tests is what the fued is about. Some people in Floyds camp are suspicious and they are taking precautions. The shady part is that first Manny's camp said no, then not right before the fight, Floyds people have agreed to limit it to three tests and still no. No random tests...........he needs to just take the test and quit bitching about it.

 

Look here, *******, I'm sick of having to explain to each and every one of you little ignorant ass mother****ers that I don't even like Floyd. Not everybody here is a nuthugger despite the fact that you clearly are. Also, I hate to be the one to break the bad news, but your pal here with the chickenFloyd avatar is no expert either.

 

If Pac has to tak these tests & no-one else does, thats comletely unfair. Keep a level playing field.