What's your opinion of Edwin Valero as a Boxer?

Valero never even peaked. We'll never know.

 

Valero never fought above lightweight so we will never know if his success and power would be carried up with him.


He knocked a lot of unknowns out in Venuzuela and Japan.



Valero's kryptonite is a guy like Devon Alexander. A guy with a good chin.

 

Over rated. Was struggling with the opposition when they started getting better, still getting stoppages but if he moved up to elite level would have lost a few. Him against Broner would have been a 50/50 fight.

 

My point was that Khan stopped Judah when Garcia couldn't but then Garcia stopped Khan so your Broner/Valero/DeMarco triangle theory doesn't prove much

Not sure how Khan has proven to be better than both but that's your opinion and he might be better than them.
Saying all Valero had was power is like saying all Khan has is speed. Have you seen the Valero documentary on youtube with the footage of him sparring where he actually shows some of his skill because he's just sparring and isn't trying to kill his opponent like when he was in actual fights? He wasn't Mayweather but he had more than just power.

 

its not what he thinks its the beating he took

presscott disposed of khan easier than garcia sorry to burst your bubble but it dont work that way


and further down khan and power in the same sentence :rofl

 

under imo

and it would be 50 50 until valero lands solid then its lights out or moan and hold his head like a moaning bit ch

 

I've only seen his last fight. I think he looked pretty damn good. No idea about how he would have handled the elite, you never know til they actually get in the ring. My first impression was that he was boxing a lot more than I would have expected given his rep. I was thinking his power was overrated until the fight was stopped and you could see how busted up his opponent was. I'd call him a boxer-PUNCHER, not really a one punch KO guy but like I said earlier, at the time of the stoppage\retirement his opponent had the body language of someone who'd been hit by a car.

 

It does work with Antonio Demarco, though.


Broner who isn't known as a puncher stopped him easier than the known puncher Valero.


In this case it does. Khan hasn't got the best chin so there's no point in comparing him with others because he can be vulnerable against moderately good punchers.

 

omg

when as broner been known as a puncher at ww

although at lww he was

if it works like that for demarco it works like that for presscott :think

are you telling me presscott > garcia :rofl

 

its a huge mistake to think valero was just a power puncher in fact his trainers in the early days complained that he strayed from his boxing abilities and just looked to blast people out (and it was working for him)

he is said to have trained like an animal including in sparring as documented also he had very very good boxing skills/head movement/defence when he wanted to use it I mean you dont spar with the likes of morales and ODLH and hold your own sparring or not if you dont have a high level of talent.

damn shame we never got to see him fight at 140 I think he would have held his own against anyone in the divison no doubt in my mind at all.We would have seen some entertaining fights as a man he was a messed up killer tho

there is a good documentary on youtube with footage of his early days in the gym check it out

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sC8rmkfyrZo

 

Broner was never known as a puncher at LWW lol


He's not fought in that division much yet. Only two times against Molina and Taylor.



I can name many many fighters at lightweight and at light welterweight who would box rings around Valero.


Crawford beats Valero with ease. Broner would beat Valero at lightweight. Alexander at light welterweight would have beat Valero.

Tim Bradley at light welterweight would beat Valero. Khan at light welterweight would have beat Valero.

List can go on.... He was not and never was going to be an elite fighter. Just a good world class fighter.

 

my bad i meant lw
the rest well
thats your opinion and there like ass holes everyone as one

 

crawford was not about alexander was in atotally different weight class and just no khan does not have the chin nor defense to even think of getting into the ring with valero , bradley would be a good fight,
please feel free to carry your list on just make sure it as relativity

 

I think Valero was a world class fighter no doubt about it. I just don't think he can beat guys like Pacquiao did with Tim Bradley to a UD comfortably. He doesn't have the extra levels to his game.


Just not elite level like Mayweather or Pacquiao.


No real shame in that.

 

hard to say if those fighters would have beaten him we can only guess I doubt khan would have ever gone near him he would have sent him back to p@kistan in a wooden box imo

bradley could he have kept him off with valeros power speed in out style? broner was a bully at the lower weights the guys level is around the same paulie malignaggi,alexander debatable who knows how valero would have dealt with his boxing