What's Your Opinion Of Larry Holmes??

Shay Sonya · May 19, 2023

I think highly of his career, but I probably do not rank him as high as most on my all time Heavyweight list.

hdog · May 19, 2023

Anubis said: ↑

Part of the reason I have difficulty considering post Championship Distance era boxers is because the reduction to a 12 round limit made the use of steroids and PEDs far more useful and consequential for drug cheats.

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Good point, never thought of that.

Hotep Kemba · May 20, 2023

Anubis said: ↑

Part of the reason I have difficulty considering post Championship Distance era boxers is because the reduction to a 12 round limit made the use of steroids and PEDs far more useful and consequential for drug cheats.

Michael Spinks did it the right way, cleanly. His body was the same for Tyson at 212 as it was for Sears at 170, and remains the same in retirement.

Qawi slammed Holyfield for using steroids for their rematch, we know for an absolute fact that Morrison was juiced to the gills by Tommy's own admission, and the way former lower weight champions like Haye, Moorer, RJJ, Toney, Barkley and others packed on muscle is obscene. (Joe "johngarfield" Rein told me that while Toney's body looked like a melted candle externally that underneath was an absurd muscularity.)

In the case of Mike Weaver and Ken Norton, they stated that their physiques were merely genetic gifts, and both were savage critics of weight training. Whether Hercules came in for Holmes at 202 in 1979 or 234 in 2000, Weaver's physique was the same, as was Holmes at 209 or 255. (In retirement, Mike lead aerobox classes, not anything having to do with weight training. During his WBA reign, he injured himself trying to lift weights. That was enough of that. (Hercules has gone on record stating that boxing lost an irretrievable lot by eliminating the Championship Distance.)
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Why would the bolded be the case? Boxers wouldn't have taken more PED's after the round reduction, they would have just taken different PEDs. The amount they took would have only changed based on availability from era to era.

In other words, the 80's wasn't juicy because of a round reduction, the 80's was juicy because it was the 80's. That wasn't a result of a boxing rule at all, that was the result of a worldwide sports phenomenon. If it was still 15 rounds they would have used less steroids and other cardio enhancing PED's, not less PED's.

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