What's Your P4P List For Noue-vember?

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  1. JOKER

    JOKER Froat rike butterfry, sting rike MFER! banned Full Member

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    What's your Top 10? Feel free to go all the way up to 15 or 20 or 1,000 (if you're @CST80).
     
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  2. JOKER

    JOKER Froat rike butterfry, sting rike MFER! banned Full Member

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    1. Naoya Inoue
    2. Oleksandr Usyk
    3. Dmitry Bivol
    4. Terence Crawford
    5. Artur Beterbiev
    6. Clenelo Alvaroids
    7. Vasiliy Lomachenko
    8. Roman Gonzalez
    9. Errol Spence Jr.
    10. Tyson Fury

    Had to say goodbye to my good friend Gennadiy Gennadyevich Golovkin.

    :(
     
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  3. drenlou

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    1.) Naoya Inoue












    The rest..:SimpHomer:
     
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  4. elmaldito

    elmaldito Skillz Full Member

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    crawford
    usyk
    bivol
    fury
    spence
    shakur
     
  5. ellerbe

    ellerbe Loyal Member Full Member

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    The winner of Usyk/Fury, Bivol/Beterbiev, or Spence/Crawford would be my definitive #1. Right now it's really a toss up because no one has a huge staple win besides Fury, but I don't really put super HW's on my p4p.

    Based off eye test and resume(excluding super HW's like Fury, Joshua, Wilder).

    1. Spence
    2. Canelo
    3. Crawford
    4. Inoue
    5. Usyk
    6. Beterbiev
    7. Bivol
    8. Shakur
    9. Haney
    10. Jermell

    Honorable Mentions: Ennis, Vergil Ortiz, David Benavidez, Teofimo, Loma, Bam Rodriguez.
     
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  6. Fogger

    Fogger Father, grandfather and big sports fan. Full Member

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    1. Naoya Inoue
    2. Oleksandr Usyk
    3. Dmitry Bivol
    4. Canelo Alvarez
    5. Artur Beterbiev
    6. Terence Crawford
    7. Josh Taylor
    8. Errol Spence Jr.
    9. Tyson Fury
    10. Shakur Stevenson
    11. Jermell Charlo
    12. Kenshiro Teraji
    13. Devin Haney
    14. Vasiliy Lomachenko
    15. Kazuto Ioka
     
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  7. fencik45

    fencik45 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    1-10, p4p is stupid.
     
  8. JOKER

    JOKER Froat rike butterfry, sting rike MFER! banned Full Member

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    Thanks.
     
  9. Dangerwood84

    Dangerwood84 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I will do a top 6.
    1.Usyk
    2. Beterbiev
    3. Inoue
    4. Loma
    5.Bivol
    6.Crawford
     
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  10. Kiwi Casual

    Kiwi Casual Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Usyk is the clear number 1. Spence and Crawford shouldn't even be on the list based on how scared of each other they seem to be.
     
  11. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    Something like this...
    1. Oleksandr Usyk
    2. Naoya Inoue
    3. Dmitry Bivol
    4. Saul Alvarez
    5. Josh Taylor
    6. Vasyl Lomachenko
    7. Errol Spence Jr
    8. Gennadiy Golovkin
    9. Terence Crawford
    10. Kazuto Ioka
    11. Roman Gonzalez
    12. Kenshiro Teraji
    13. Tyson Fury
    14. Artur Beterbiev
    15. Juan Francisco Estrada
    16. Jermell Charlo
    17. Anthony Joshua
    18. Devin Haney
    19. Emanuel Navarrete
    20. Shakur Stevenson
     
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  12. ipitythefool

    ipitythefool Prediction ? Pain Full Member

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    1. Usyk
    2. Inoue
    3. Bivol
    4. Ginger nuts
    5. Beterbiev
    6. Spence
    7. Loma
    8. Crawford
    9. Fury
    10. Estrada
     
  13. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    I come across a lot of people who have Spence ranked #1 and even many outlets like ESPN, The Ring and CBS have him ridiculously high in their rankings

    ESPN have him #3 behind Terry and Inoue
    The Ring have him #4 behind Usyk, Inoue and Terry
    CBC have him at #2 behind Inoue

    So that's two outlets who have him above Usyk which is absolutely insane
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    :facepalm:

    Errol is a one-weight three-belt unified champion

    All bar two of his fights were in the US and one of the ones that wasn't was in Canada and he was fighting a South African. So he's only fought in his opponent's country/backyard once and, as is often the case when a top American travels, when he did that they wanted to award him a medal of honor for it :facepalm:

    He's beaten 7 world champions in 28 fights

    But he's only fought two career 147 pounder world champions since winning his first world title and one of them was his title winning effort against Brook and he struggled badly against both. Everyone else world class he's fought was a a career 140 pounder or a blown up 135 Mikey

    Brook
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    All career 140 pounders or a blown up 135 Mikey

    Danny
    Mikey
    Ugas
    Peterson
    Algieri who was the first world champion he fought

    And they're all either featherfists (Algieri and Peterson) or average punchers, especially at that weight.

    Mikey is a big puncher but his KO% above 135 = 0%

    Danny can crack but he's only stopped 4 of his 10 opponents at 147

    Peterson was the WBA regular champ at 147, winning it against Avanesyan

    Danny won the WBC title at 147 but that was PBC smoke & mirrors because he fought for the vacant belt against Robert Guerrero who was 2-2 in his last 4 fights, both losses wide (Floyd & Thurman) and even worse he could very easily have been 1-3 because a lot of fans thought he lost his previous fight against Aaron Martinez who dropped him :facepalm:

    So Guerrero earned his world title shot vs Danny for going 2-2 in his previous 4, going like a death against a D level in his previous fight in a fight many had him losing. His other win (his only non highly controversial one) during that four fight sequence was against Yoshihiro Kamegai

    Now compare that to Usyk

    Usyk is a two-weight champion

    Undisputed at CW
    Three-belt unified at HW

    He won, unified, and defended all his world titles at CW in his opponent's backyards sans his first defence which was on neutral soil

    He won all his belts at HW in his opponent's backyard
    Defended them on neutral soil

    He's beaten 6 world champions in 20 fights

    All the world champions he's fought bar one were career CWs or HWs in AJ's case not career LHWs or blown up SMWs who'd come up and none of them were regular champs. The only one who'd come up from LHW was Bellew but he was the poster boy for weight bullying and was very much a natural CW who looked like a vampire on crack on the scales at LHW, and he won his only world title at CW knocking out one of the best CWs of this generation who is the current WBC champ

    And in complete contrast to Spence he's fought a ton of punchers and they were all career CWs or career HWs ie. his size or way bigger

    We've never seen Spence put in a dominant performance against a career 147 pounder world champion yet and he's only fought two of them. He looks great against all those career 140s and blown up 135 Mikey who've come up whom his size, strength, physicality, and power are huge assets for him but on the two occasions he fought career 147 pounders world champions he struggled badly and even though he's barely fought any punchers he's been hurt a bunch of times

    We've not only seen Usyk dominate career CW world champions his size many times we've seen him do so against giant career HWs way way bigger and heavier than him. In fact, Usyk has not only dominated most of the world champions he's fought he's toyed with them in their backyards and he's never been hurt by any of the big/huge punchers he's fought

    How is this even a question? There is zero argument for having him above Usyk other than him being American
     
  14. GGGfans

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    1- Usyk
    2- Inoue

    3- Canelo
    4- Bivol
    5- Crawford
    6- Beterbiev
    7- Fury

    8- Haney
    9- Spence
    10- Charlo
     
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  15. Kell Macabe

    Kell Macabe I don’t know s*** about boxing Full Member

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    1.Usyk
    2.Inoue
    3.Bivol
    4.Bertivbeiv
    5.Crawford
    6.Canelo
    7.Spence
    8.Loma
    9.Fury
    10.Taylor