Whats your take on Khan and Judah now? And whats next?

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  1. Finesse74

    Finesse74 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Im asking as in their current career.

    I'm questioning if Judah still has what it takes to fight at the top level. I know for sure hes not done, but can he compete at the top level anymore? No one...no one has been Judah like Khan did. This wasn't a typical Judah fight. Judah never give Khan any problems. Didn't even win a round!

    Khan was at the edge of turning elite to me before this fight. His out classing of Judah just makes it more deserved. Khan never let Judah get into the fight. He was looking to throw down as soon as the first bell started and never let down. I'm liking this kid more and more.
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    Whats next?

    Judah - Maidana sounds pretty good to me

    Khan - TR has moved Khan very well. I think that if they don't give Maidana a rematch they good up in weight. Fighting Berto would be a good case. I would also like to see Berto beat to a pulp. :good
     
  2. acr347

    acr347 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Judah should retire.
    I really can't believe the quit and act job he pulled on saturday.
    Not sure who would want to watch him fight after that.
    If he would've went out on his shield that would've been good, but it wasn't just a loss now, but the lack of effort, and then the cowardly con job is disgraceful for a world class professional fighter.

    I was impressed with Kahn. I think he will be a force at welter. Don't know who he will start his welter weight debut with, but don't think it will be a major headliner.
     
  3. DDDUUDDDEE

    DDDUUDDDEE Undisputed Ambien (taker) Full Member

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    I would like to see Judah in with a fighter like Alexander, I think he still has enough left in the tank to take him. Maybe by knockout.
     
  4. Finesse74

    Finesse74 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I see that is the fight I wanted for Zab when he got to 140 again, but after seeing that Devon ain't ****. That would be a horrible fight.

    Judah needs someone to pressure him and lets be honest if hes coming back he needs to come back asap or he'll lose his star power...which is draining...quickly. He needs to fight Maidana.
     
  5. lewishamboy

    lewishamboy Styles Impetuous Full Member

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    Id like to see this fight made next too, seems only right both men that robbed Matthysse should face each other. I reckon Zab beats Alexander.

    Khan should move up to 147 and fight Berto...
     
  6. cesare-borgia

    cesare-borgia Übermensch in fieri Full Member

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    judah will probably get another titleshot when khan and braldey moved up
     
  7. ocelot

    ocelot Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The Mabuza KO aside, since Judah moved back to 140 he's looked like he can no longer pull the trigger.
     
  8. KO KIDD

    KO KIDD Loyal Member Full Member

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    agreed though he didnt throw much agaisnt mabuza either and let mabuza dictate stretches of that fight

    Judah saturday pre fight looked great, great shape great confidence and a good warm up he looked ready

    in the fight he moved well got into position to throw but didnt when he did throw he landed some good hard shots

    Judah looked ready and prepared but something wasnt right

    either Khans perfect fight where he moved and jabbed and never gave up his height coupled with his fast combos to the head and body where he put his gloves up right away and circled out made him unhittable by Judah

    or Judah couldnt pull the trigger

    in the mabuza fight he didnt throw many punches but got a KO

    Khan was too big and too active for Judah to just out manuever and land seldomly

    Pernell gave good instructions left, use the uppercut, right hook to the stomach

    he told him to turn up the pressure

    Zab looked afraid to get hit and afraid to take risks in fear of getting hit

    I wonder how much the head clash effected the bout

    after they butted in round 1 Judah kept playing with his eye it bothered him

    its almost like he let one thing bother him and it jsut brought him down

    but Khan was too much by round 4 or 5 where judah naturally slows down any way he was starting to and his face was getting bloodied that fight wouldnt last more than 7 or 8 he was getting punished in the 5th

    Judah may be able to beat some ok fighters but hte khans bradleys alexanders maidanas and so on and so forth beat him

    Khan has a bright future if brad moves up theres nothing left except alexander or maybe mattysse but he will prob follow alexander up in pursuit of a big pay day vs floyd
     
  9. ocelot

    ocelot Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I think Khan brought too much power for Judah. Once Judah got hit he backed off - though that headbutt was nasty too. More than anything else, Khan just looked like a WW fighting a JWW. Ariza's done a hell of a job building him up.
     
  10. saul_ir34

    saul_ir34 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Judah has never been as good as advertised. It seems his fans were the ones hoping for him to fulfill something that was never there. He had some skills but never the heart or determination to carry them out. He loses every single big fight he is in. Also he shouldnt have even had that title. Matthysse should have been given the decision in their fight and he could have picked that title off Mabuzas hands.

    Khan is just getting better and better and will definitely become a star in the sport. He has a warriors mentality which i dont understand why he doesnt have Britts going crazy for him along with the rest of the boxing world. Maybe its because he is of middle eastern descent. However i saw him making quite a few mistakes and the biggest was he was rushing into Judah. A good counter puncher would check hook him into a turn buckle. I dont think he is ready for PBF or Pac yet but he is getting closer.

    As far as JWW rankings for me are.

    1 a. Khan b. Bradley
    2. Matthyse
    3. Alexander
    4. Maidana
    5. Guerrero depending on the Maidana fight.

    As a huge fan of Bradley i am disappointed he failed to fight Khan in what was a clear duck. Khan is taking the risks then he gets to be top dog.

    Matthyse can beat anyone at the weight based on his power. The judges will do their best to stop it from hapenning though.....
     
  11. KO KIDD

    KO KIDD Loyal Member Full Member

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    great post it is a shame that bradley robbed us of a big fight and clarity

    Khan does make some mistakes but he also does a lot right and if he doesnt fight the floyds and the mannys he can develope well and beat just about any one else
     
  12. ocelot

    ocelot Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I can't see Bradley beating Khan. Khan's size, speed and power would be too much for Bradley. Khan will only lose to a fighter who brings the threat of putting Khan to sleep. It's the only thing that derails Khan's gameplan. Bradley isn't that fighter.
     
  13. saul_ir34

    saul_ir34 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Khan-Ortiz at WW??? Who you got?
     
  14. Finesse74

    Finesse74 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I doubt Bradley is going to move up. Hes too small for 147. He relies purely on his boxing abilities to get him ahead.

    Who do you think Zab will fight?
     
  15. shenmue

    shenmue Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Alexander doesn't deserve a place in anybody's top 5, he has been exposed with 3 "losses" in a row"