What's your top 10 P4P all time?

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  1. BitPlayerVesti

    BitPlayerVesti Boxing Drunkie Full Member

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    Use whatever criteria you like, rank some more if you want
    If I get enough replies I'll combine them.

    1. Bob Fitzsimmons
    2. Sam Langford
    3. Sugar Ray Robinson
    4. Harry Greb
    5. Henry Armstrong
    6. Ezzard Charles
    7. Jimmy Wilde
    8. Jem Mace
    9. Archie Moore
    10. Floyd Mayweather Jr.

    Edit: With the points system I used, as it stands
    1 Sugar Ray Robinson
    2 Sam Langford
    3 Harry Greb
    4 Henry Armstrong
    5 Bob Fitzsimmons
    6 Muhammad Ali
    7 Ezzard Charles
    8 Willie Pep
    9 Roberto Duran
    10 Joe Louis
    11 Joe Gans
    12 Benny Leonard
    12 Jimmy Wilde
    14 Archie Moore
    15 Jem Mace
    16 George Dixon
    16 Mickey Walker
    16 Packey McFarland
    16 Sugar Ray Leonard
    20 Floyd Mayweather Jr.
    20 Jack Johnson
    20 Roy Jones Jr.
     
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  2. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    Langford, Greb, Robinson, Armstrong, Charles, Fitzsimmons, Ali, Gans, Louis, Duran.
     
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  3. Russell

    Russell Loyal Member Full Member

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    You know, when you end up with a top ten that has names Greb and Robinson forced right next to Floyd Mayweathers, you really might want to both rethink your criteria on lists before making another & also educate yourself more thoroughly on boxing before doing any more lists.

    Funny how you managed to arbitrarily find a place for good old completely out of blue reference like Jem Mace and Wilde, the latter to whom has probably the weakest resume of any supposed great fighter in boxing history.
     
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  4. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    I'm not sure about that Russell. I'm not sure that's the case. His flyweight resume is a little underwhelming but he did beautiful things at bantamweight.
     
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  5. BitPlayerVesti

    BitPlayerVesti Boxing Drunkie Full Member

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    The records of Wilde's opponents on boxrec is very incomplete.

    Anyway I pick ones I like, both P4P and all time rankings are super subjective already. If you think it's wrong post a better one.
     
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  6. Russell

    Russell Loyal Member Full Member

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    Yeah, it's an off the cuff comment I didn't think much about, to be completely honest.

    But to be fair, he does have a pretty ho-hum record for a man who some consider the single greatest P4P fighter of all time because of his exceptionally diminutive size, yes? I've heard people take that position before. I don't think his record quite holds up to anywhere near his actual ability.
     
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  7. Drew101

    Drew101 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    (No order within tiers)

    Pillars of Heaven:

    Robinson
    Greb
    Armstrong
    Langford

    Major Deities:

    Charles
    Ali
    Louis
    Duran
    Fitzimmons
    Gans
    B. Leonard
    R. Leonard
    Walker
    Moore
    Wilde
    Pep
    Dixon
    McFarland

    Gods that walk the Earth:

    Whitaker
    McGovern
    Ross
    Canzoneri
    M. Spinks
    Arguello
    Olivares
    JCC
    Hagler
    Jofre
    Hearns
    RJJ
    Mayweather Jr.
    McLarnin
    Pacquiao
    Saddler
    Tunney
    Burley
    Williams
    Sanchez
    Gavilan
    Griffith
    Napoles
    Harada

    etc.
     
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  8. Jel

    Jel Obsessive list maker Full Member

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    1. Sugar Ray Robinson
    2. Henry Armstrong
    3. Willie Pep
    4. Muhammad Ali
    5. Joe Louis
    6. Roberto Duran
    7. Benny Leonard
    8. Joe Gans
    9. Ezzard Charles
    10. Jack Johnson
     
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  9. cuchulain

    cuchulain Loyal Member Full Member

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    SRR
    Greb
    Langford
    Armstrong
    Ali
    Duran
    Fitzsimmons
    Charles
    Louis
    RJJ
     
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  10. cuchulain

    cuchulain Loyal Member Full Member

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    I take you don't approve of having Floyd on his list ?
     
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    1. Robinson
    2. Langford
    3. Greb
    4. Armstrong
    5. Ali
    6. Fitzsimmons
    7. Gans
    8. Pep
    9. Duran
    10. Charles
     
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  12. Russell

    Russell Loyal Member Full Member

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    On the flip side, I hope you don't. :lol:
     
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  13. Clinton

    Clinton Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Wow, nicely thought out, Drew!!
     
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  14. Clinton

    Clinton Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Superb thread. All great lists, lads!
     
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  15. cuchulain

    cuchulain Loyal Member Full Member

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    No I don't.

    I'm not a fan of the dude.

    But he is/was a great boxer and I wouldn't think it unreasonable to have him scraping the bottom of the top 10.

    I would probably put him somewhere in the lower half of the next ten.


    I have sympathy for the BitPlayer inclusion as I'm guessing a fair few would take issue with my placement of Roy at 10.
     
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