whats your top ten p4p rating of all time?

I already posted mine.

Problem I have with Duran is his was a sub .500 fighter vs the very best in his prime. Moving up in weight isnt really that impressive only a handful of elite fighters didnt do it. Im just going from the age of 32 down. He lost to Hearns, Hagler, Laing, Benitez, and Leonard and DeJesus. He has wins over Leonard(Fluk like) DeJesus, Buchanan. Im sorry but that isnt top ten worthy.

 

mcgrain, i remembered you had that top 55 list, can i ask you were do you put camacho? the guy was a speedmaster especially at 130 and 135. I think he is better h2h than most of the guys p4p list

 

I know...I really want to put Pep there but its hard because of Sandlers dominate wins over him. I just if I had to pick I would pick Sandler.

 

Robinson
Ali
Duran
Pep
Saddler
Armstrong
Greb
Langford
Moore
Whitaker


My pre-war knowledge isnt great so all the classic fighters in there could jump each other I think.

I'm happy with my top 3, outside of that I can be swayed

 

that's fair enough mate.well with ali who i admit a weakness here,because he's basically my favourite all time fighter.however i feel i can justify him being up there.from the early sixties up until the start of the eighties he fought and beat,sometimes twice every top heavyweight you could name,that's something like 18 years.,and includes a near 4 year break in between,quite remarkable really.as in the case of monzon and hagler i just think guys who dominate a traditionally tough division over 7 or 8 years like they did deserve their place although i know you can make a great case for others,especially the ones who move up in weight.however i think the division hopping especially in modern times looks a better achievement on paper than it actually is.however note how high i rate armstrong who in my opinion went up in the weights and achieved great things when it really was a genuine weight difference.having said that mate i'm sure people can rip my picks to bits!

 

He's a fighter whose career really passed me by when getting into the sport. Note to self; more research on Charles.

Can you recommend any books etc on him?

I'll get what fights I can from youtube and start there!

Thanks

 

**** that was tough, ok personally.......

1- Ray Robinson
2- Langford
3- Ali
4- Armstrong
5- Charles
6- Louis
7- Moore
8- Duran
9- Pep
10- Ray Leonard

 

1. Mayweather
2. Robinson
3. Leonard
4. Jones Jnr
5. Whitacker
6. Ali
7. Holyfield
8. Hagler
9. Chavez
10. De La Hoya

 

Here's mine:

1. Henry Armstrong
2. Sugar Ray Robinson
3. Harry Greb
4. Ezzard Charles
5. Sam Langford
6. Mickey Walker
7. Barney Ross
8. Joe Louis
9. Sugar Ray Leonard
10. Pernell Whitaker

HMs: Bob Fitzimmons, Roberto Duran, Benny Leonard and Barbados Joe Walcott.