Whatsup with the wide disparities on Clottey's talent level?

Only Floyd fanatics will say Clottey is not a legit contender vs. Pac.

Arguably, the guy hasn't tasted a defeat and never been beaten convincingly.

Before Pac, I remember many fans were trying to justify Cotto's lackluster win against this guy, was based upon the perception that no one has ever looked good fighting him.

Alas, now that Manny is fighting him, his stock suddenly dropped. Elite fighters in Tony and Cotto struggled against him but Manny will run over him.

Is Manny that good now?

 

He's a very good fighter who could be elite if he could improve his stamina and output just a little bit. I mean, just a little better in those regards and he'd be 37-1 with wins over Cotto, Margarito and Judah, and he'd easily be a top 10 P4P fighter.

 

Styles. There are some that some people will never credit.

This is true of Paquiao as well to an extent.

 

i think he's excellent and has been unlucky in his two biggest fights. He was giving margo a boxing lesson before breaking his hands and ive watched the cotto fight countless times and never had cotto winning. I do however think manny's footwork and motion will be too much (still gonna gave manny full credit though it's a tough style and guy he's in with)

 

Clottey sucks ass, period, no matter how you sugar coat it...

 

Punch Resistance is only average and his Defense is Very Good by comparison to other welters. It's his shitty stamina and lack of heart that prevents him from being an A level fighter. He whines and complains far too much and has a history of it. Unless he can achieve something great he will always be a B+ type fighter.

He had the chance to jump Cotto in the final rounds but just coasted as usual and lost. I can't remember the last good or very good fighter that he managed to stop. As usual he will start off well but Pacquiao should be able to easily outwork him down the stretch for a decision. Clottey is just not active enough in the ring to beat elite opponents.

And for the last time for all the idiots -

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. It was a minor knuckle bruise but he was looking for a way to ***** out of the fight but his corner wouldn't let him. Clottey was fighting Corrales shortly after which would not have been possible with a serious hand injury.

 

Well, Clottey is good enough that Floyd doesn't even think of fighting him.

 

Or he doesn't think of fighting him because he brings very little to the table as an opponent. His best wins are worse (in Diego's case much worse) versions of guys Floyd already beat. He is defined by having "good" losses to Cotto and Margarito.

Clottey is good, very good even, but people are shitting on this fight against Pac because the result is largely a foregone conclusion. No one can give any reasonable scenario for a Clottey win that doesn't involve a KO, and the dude has one KO in his last 10 fights.

Clottey doesn't have the workrate to beat Pac on points, and he tends to fade late and spend too much time shelled up eating punches that may not land flush, but still tend to impress the judges. Pac is fast enough to catch him and his movement is good enough to be in and out before Clottey reacts, because Clottey is not very fluid moving from offense to defense.

Basically there is very little interest in seeing Clottey fight Pac because his style doesn't match up well, and because Pac just destroyed the guy that gave Clottey his most recent loss. Yea, he's a top 5 welterweight right now, but Pac is a top 20 fighter of all time...it's pretty underwhelming.

And for the record, I think Clottey is rated just fine and his style would be more problematic for Floyd.

 

:huh


For me his defence is superb to very good at worst !!!

It aint Floyd mayweather cute with the shoulder roll, but clottey does the basics of defensive boxing brilliantly. Keep you hands up, blocks head punches with gloves and body punches with his arms..

I think he gets overly defesive though, causing him to throw less punches than he should have ( cotto fight is a great example ). He fights in bursts, keeping that his hands up not doing a thing for way too long, explodes then back to that peek a boo defensive shell again. For all the explosiveness and speed he has, it aint **** if you won't give yourself a chance to use it in the ring. Sure he's good at what he does, he just doesnt do it enough. That'll be his downfall against pac.

 

His defense is very solid, but does him no favors with the judges. Letting guys tee off on your guard non-stop does not produce a favorable impression, particularly since with that high stiff guard, even when you block a punch you still get moved around and look like you're being bullied.

And, of course, if you rely on that style of guard and a guy has the power to punch through it, you get hit a lot. Not flush, but still, hit.

 

The Motha****in Hitta!

I'm one of the guys who thinks he's elite... That's me motha****a!


Here's why I say so...

Cottey has only lost to Margarito and Cotto. A bum just isn't going to beat him. Neither is any average or above average Welter. And in the Margo loss, he absrbed a compubix record of punches, and was completely unscathed and unhurt. Against Cotto? Be for real. Many people, including a well-respected judge thinks Clottey won that fight, despite the bull**** flash KD. Over the cumulation of the fight, Clottey just seemed like he was whippin that biys ass. He outlanded him. And noo one wants to talk about that. And his punches were a lot cleaner, especially those uppercuts. Don't yall ****in forget that fight was at MSG.

As far as the Pac fight goes. Pac will be facing a guy that is more durable than Cotto by a long shot (no mercy accumulation stoppage, he is inthere for 12) and a guy who has taken some blows and never been truly rocked, and a guy who is much stronger, with a better defense than Cotto. Clottey is also a little more stable mentally than Cotto and less likely to be taken out of his gameplan...

If Cotto is elite, then why is the guy he went life and death with (and who really beat his ass in MSG) now all of a sudden a bum???

 

Clottey is a very good fighter. Put it this way, if you class Cotto as an Elite, then Clottey probably is too, if not very close to it. The guy arguably beat Cotto...you can say Cotto was blind but lets not forget Clottey injured his knee during the fight too.

He destroyed B level guy like Judah and Corrales at 147 who was clearly past it. Was clearly beating Baldomir before DQ and Margo was a close fight.

Those who think Pac walks through him, the guy went 24 rounds with Cotto+Margo without hitting the canvas properly, the cotto KD was a flash KD. He also took everything Judah had, a guy many think hits harder than Pac punch4punch. Outslugged Corrales. Hell of a chin, if Pac can stop this guy it'll be through accumulation.

 

does anyone have the gif where Clottey throws a 7 punch combination at Cotto. That was nice.