When a close fight became a robbery.

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Nopporn, May 21, 2023.


  1. smoking mirrors

    smoking mirrors Active Member Full Member

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    but why did all three judges score it to Haney? including one 8-4, which I haven’t seen anyone on the internet make a reasonable claim for. you’d assume the odds would be at least one card being in Loma’s favour.

    when none of the cards represent the consensus of what many boxing fans, fighters, media etc actually saw, you have to ask questions.
     
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  2. Nopporn

    Nopporn Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Many people do not clearly understand what a robbery means. They will have no problem and no complain if their favorite fighter win a close fight. But they will call a close fight to be a robbery if their favorite fighter gets beaten.
     
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  3. Flo_Raiden

    Flo_Raiden Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    That tends to happen a lot in boxing. People are always going to be bias.
     
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  4. vargasfan1985

    vargasfan1985 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    An 8-4 card is what made this fight even worse and he scored Loma’s best round for Haney

    His entire card is suspect
     
  5. YCGS

    YCGS Boxing Addict Full Member

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    No see this is the problem in boxing. Because it was a close fight there was no way Loma (or any older/ B side/wasn't supposed to win) was going to get the decision over Haney. I can probably look at anyone's post history here and find a post where they felt like the fighter they thought won didn't and many times it's the type of scenario above.
     
  6. Rollin

    Rollin Boxing Addict Full Member

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    They always look good. How did the fight go?
     
  7. ruffryders

    ruffryders Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I think boxing records disagree with you
     
  8. Rollin

    Rollin Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Rewatched the fight with pauses and rewinds. Disgusting robbery.
     
  9. Rollin

    Rollin Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Had it 115-113 yesterday when I was scoring with Haney being the A-side and the young champion in mind. I did the same with Usyk-Joshua I and II which resulted in my scorecards being very, very english. As usual, on the rewatch when I throw out of my mind such preconceptions, the fight become much clearer. I could go as far as to give Lomachenko 116-112 and die with clear conscience. 117-111 if I throw in one of the even rounds I gave to Haney since he was the champion (disgusting unwritten rule when applied in modern era of e-mail straps.)
     
  10. Rilz

    Rilz Ball don't lie! Full Member

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    If you scored that fight for Haney then you are incapable of accurately scoring a boxing match
     
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  11. Rollin

    Rollin Boxing Addict Full Member

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    11th round is going to haunt Haney for the rest of his life. Schooling approaching 10-8 territory, except Lomachenko took a breather during the last minute.
     
  12. Rollin

    Rollin Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Not gonna lie boys. Yesterday I felt okay with the decision since I scored paranoid and only gave Lomachenko the certain rounds. Today I'm just crestfallen. What a god damn schooling of a massive, young weight bully. Haney can't even claim some great rounds like Lopez did and he was getting shook in 10th and 11th.
     
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  13. The Professor

    The Professor Socialist Ring Leader Staff Member

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    Some observers see it one way, others see it another. Simply because one group is in the minority doesn't mean they are, ipso facto, wrong.

    My argument is, essentially, that no one is "wrong." It's a matter of perspective and judgement - and in matters of boxing scoring people need to have more humility.

    In these sorts of close competitive fights NO ONE should assume that how they score a round or a fight is necessarily correct. How do you prove such a thing with any certitude? It's all opinion, essentially.
     
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  14. Hotep Kemba

    Hotep Kemba Active Member Full Member

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    It's funny, I tend to project and assume people I talk to via the internet are also adults. Your complete misuse of the term gaslighting, you calling me an NPC and you clearly popping yourself in a rage behind the screen have convinced me you're likely a child though lol. "Welcome to my ignore list buddy > : (" damn.

    Wasn't even saying I thought Haney won lol, just that your argument is garbage, because it objectively is.
     
  15. Hotep Kemba

    Hotep Kemba Active Member Full Member

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    Again, not even saying I think Haney won, just that argument ad populum, especially argument ad populum ex social media consensus is a horrible argument, because it is. Smooth brained logic to use to justify your beliefs.

    Saying "The sky is blue because loads of people on Twitter agree with me" is a dog **** argument, regardless of whether or not the sky is blue, ya get meh?