When a close fight became a robbery.

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  1. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    When it's an impossibility to find more than 6 feasible rounds that one can give to the winner, any scorecard wider than that is a robbery. What you're essentially making as an argument is. Well.... this guy stole 100 dollars from me, that's a robbery and an egregious one! But that guy, eh... he only stole 10 dollars from me. While also robbery.... I can live with that! Well I'm not a moral relativist. Stealing 100 dollars and stealing 10 dollars are both stealing. Haney fans had to literally turn themselves into ****ing pretzels to find that one extra round to give to him, and even then... they're saying, well, it could've gone either way! When you hear fans of the fighter who received a gift, merely offering up a measly "it could go either way" defense, instead of vociferously arguing that it was a surefire win. That's all the indication that you need to know, even in their hearts, while they refuse to admit it or are in denial. They know Lomachenko got ****ed.
     
  2. Melankomas

    Melankomas Prime Jeffries would demolish a grizzly in 2 Full Member

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    Close fights have always been considered robberies, because boxing fans just suck that ****ing hard.
     
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  3. Levook

    Levook Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I thought it was a case of close but fairly clear, but not clear enough to be called a robbery. Some close fights are clearer than others.
     
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  4. Nopporn

    Nopporn Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Well...I think that I can understand what you said above but I think that I am not that type of a person you're talking about even if you didn't say that I am. There's one thing that you need to know before we talk more about this controversial fight is I am not a fan of Haney but I'm a fan of Loma even though I predicted that Haney will win the fight. You know.....I can remember one thing well when I saw you were very upset and angry with the decision of Kovalev vs Ward I. That type of decision could no doubt be called a robbery. However, Haney vs Loma wasn't the same as that one. Either men didn't do enough to win the fight IMO. It should have been a draw at least. As I've said before, I would not have had a problem if Loma had won this fight. All I wanna do was to convince people that a close fight is not a robbery, and we don't need to take a look at those score cards to say it's a close fight or a robbery since stupid judges can be everywhere. I just hope that the immediate rematch between the two men can be made so that we don't have to be more upsets, and boxing fans will stop complaining/blaming. It's the best solution for this controversial fight and it can also safe the face of boxing sport if most people still think that the outcome of the fight was a robbery. Don't you think so?
     
  5. monaim

    monaim Member Full Member

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    Boxing is a winner-take-all sport, so one fight is the most important in a boxer's career, and when you say, "well, it was a close fight, anyone could have won that," even though many fans know who the winner was, like this Saturday, It's an insult to boxing.
     
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  6. Clinton

    Clinton Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    When I read the name of the thread, I was thinking Ward Kovalev 1. But was it too close to be called a robbery?
     
  7. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    No, that wasn't aimed at you, I was generalizing. But as you said, neither one deserved to win the fight, it should have been a draw. Even though I disagree with that, that's the point I was making, even though you picked Devin Haney, you still couldn't give him more than six rounds. Most of the pros and boxing journalists that watched the fight couldn't either. So if no one can feasibly find more than six rounds to give to the guy that won, then he didn't deserve to win, and it qualifies as a robbery. Especially when you consider the vast majority had Lomachenko winning by a round or two, meaning that you can feasibly find more than six rounds that the Loma won. Just because the fight is razor close, that doesn't rule out that it's a robbery. A draw would have been okay because neither would have won and neither would have lost, but the man who most thought lost... won, while the man who most thought won... lost, that is patently unfair.
     
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  8. monaim

    monaim Member Full Member

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    correct.
     
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  9. BoxingWarrior

    BoxingWarrior Member Full Member

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    American judges will favor their countrymen.. As much like Floyd he had been most of the time favored by fellow amwrican judges.. Put his some of his fights in his opponents backyard he would have multiple losses.