When a fighter dies.

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Horrible feeling.

The guy who George Groves beat and was left in a terrible state. That hit me emotionally. Can't remember his name.

 

I think you most likely had been welcomed if you had achievements like Pan Am Games or euro Gold medal and enough points to get in the Games and could not any more.
Okey, now there is not old era from 1900 till late 1960 ies.

Every one is welcomed in thinking about this one.

Point fighting, *****, puny, weak, young, points counting etc pleasure words.
Ofc there is risk.
I don't think that this should be idolised or worshiped here but it is what this is here.
Not that high risk but if all done according to rules and he died, then he had died and this is normal thing there. Rarity but still normal thing here.

 

It’s not happened to a boxer I have really got behind, and taking a keen interest in yet.

If it did I imagine I would feel a heavy pit of dread in my stomach, like a empty sick feeling. Also disbelief for a while. I do not know how it would effect my feelings about boxing though, until it happens.

 

Combat sports are risk, also alpinism etc.

Here 2 examples for better insight about holy mantra in forums " amateurs does not beat hard " .
Amateur Boxer Ed Bilbey Dies After Title Fight at Age 17 | Bleacher Report | Latest News, Videos and Highlights

Scott Marsden: Medical call after teen kickboxer's death - BBC News

***** ammy and we are there where we are.
These are not so exclusive, I might post about some other coffins from am fights because they according to a lot of forums posters can't hurt an opponent etc mantras are going around.

 

It's not complicated, is it?

If Ammys hit less hard but Ammys also have lower punch resistance, the damage could be very similar and could easily be worse.

 

Awful. Particularly when it's likely they've been killed by the Vax. Like Marvin.

 

It depends.
One thing is to hurt fulltime " amateur " who is mature adult.
For example there well known specimens most likely are Cuban elite amateur boxers etc.
Btw from 3 boxers who had 3 Olympic Gold medals there are only 3 gentlemans, 2 from Cuba, 1 from Hungary.
It is what it is.

There had been ammies around who had handled out more stoppages in distance than the same Wilder had pro fights under belt and they did this in am ranks.
Till mid- late 60 ies am boxing was a bit different thing for sure.

 

Deaths happen in boxing, but nothing serious.

Alan Minter...

 

Sure, I guess I was being more general though..

In the sense that for any given level (whether local, regional, national, international, pro) the higher up you go, the harder the punch power generally but also the more capable fighters are of taking hard punches.

In any given level, it's the relationship between punch power and punch resistance that leads to how much damage a fighter is going to take... So just because at X level they hit softer than Y level doesn't mean that X level is safer because they also have less punch resistance on average.

 

In theory yeah.
From my experience from am boxers most hard hitting was not highly skilled in boxing lad, he was basic as boxer and former TMA type lad. He had punched like truck. Still enough hard punching lad, not so powerful, significantly more experienced and skilled was another lad.
This about my am boxing exp. Other am boxers did not had hit so hard and effective than these two.

Well, there are things like timing, moment, placement, angles and how guy defends this, roll with this etc.
It depends.

 

I feel troubled, troubled that I like and been following a " Sport " where the main aim is to render unconscious, or beat up unmercifully a fellow that has done you no harm, feel troubled when I listen to myself encouraging young men to hurt other young men, in the name of sport, troubled when I see a fighter of yesteryear unable to put a sentence together, broke destitute, and with little money to show for years of entertaining people by hurting other human beings, that's how I feel " when a fighter dies " keep well.

 

The risk is always going to be there but it is always sad when it happens and should make it clear to us spectators what the potential stakes are. However I feel like a lot of the time it could be avoided if the ref or corner would make the tough decision to stop it, give the man a chance but your job is to protect the fighters from themselves sometimes.