When and if Wlad beats Tyson...will he be above Lennox on the ATG list??

Good lord, MVC and Unleash Fury need to stop with the chin stuff. They've bot got underrated chins. People give credit to Vitali for standing up to Lennox for 6 rounds, but never give credit to Lennox to not going down against Vitali, even though he soaked up harder shots and more of them. Meanwhile, Wlad has gone longer as champ than anyone before in history without going down. In the HW's, anyone can get knocked out given the right situation. Wlad had some stamina, defense, confidence, and chin issues earlier in his career that combined to see him go down a lot. He's clearly worked out the problems. Lennox got sloppy a couple times and caught by shots that would have at least kd'd about 97% of HW's. Never officially went down any other time (although I think Briggs should have been credited with a knockdown). So they both have solid chin's, neither is a Frank Bruno or Floyd Patterson, certainly.

 

1. Ali
2. Louis

3. Lewis
4. W. Klitschko
5. Holmes

Lewis is greater only because he beat fighters of a better generation.

 

Which fight are you referring to? Jennings?

 

Putting things into proper perspective:

1. Tyson Fury is easy work for Wladimir. Wlad will crush him on October 24. Bet on the under, since Fury is wide open for right hands and doesn't fight with his length all that much -- he will give up any kind of reach advantage he has and has porous defense, plus a shaky mandible. Wlad wins by KO.

2. Tyson Fury would be even easier work for Lennox Lewis. A prime Lewis comes with Steward in his corner by default, and Lewis relished facing other big men. Based on attributes, skills, and intangibles, Lewis wins by very early KO. Steward and Lewis would have studied Fury and devised a plan to dismantle him quickly.

Beating Fury doesn't say much for either WK or LL, imo. In actuality, Wladimir is merely taking care of another mandatory here, which he will do easily. This wouldn't be a legacy fight for either champion.

 

No, in bigger picture who the hell is Fury what did he do? Lennox wins over Evander are far better than destroying Fury in first round.
Wlad will KO him as he should.

 

True!
Lennox actually beaten best of his generation including Vitali, Wlad has handicap that best fighter(next to him) of his generation is his brother so he didnt face best/2nd best of his era...

 

He didn't beat his main challenger in his prime years. Someone, if he had of beat may have gave Lewis a shot at becoming the GOAT. It certainly would have been his best ever win that's for sure presuming said challenger went on to achieve what he has done since then.

http://boxrec.com/media/index.php/The_Ring_Magazine's_Annual_Ratings:_Heavyweight--2000s

 

I don't know if you genuinely believe Fury will get beat or just hate him because of his gypsy heritage?

 

You list Bowe, but Lewis didn't fight Bowe. Bowe who was beaten to a pulp twice by a Pole who was never close to Wlad in any department. As for Bruno and Ruddock.. :nut These are glass chinned jokers. Neither were as good as Haye, Povetkin or Ibragimov, or probably Peter, Pulev, Byrd or even Fury. I would take all 7 of them to KO Ruddock and Bruno, maybe even on the same night.


Anyway, you are a crazy maggot. :yep :nut

 

seeing as cunningham put fury on his back no, fury is still very much an unproven fighter imo

 

I always favour Lewis pretty high up in H2H rankings. But as far as achievements and notability in the sport go, I'll rank Wlad higher.

 

Holmes has Ws over 2 HOF HWs.

How many HOF HWs has Wlad beaten?

 

Borderline HOFs:

1) Chris Byrd
2) Hasim Rahman
3) David Haye
4) Alexander Povetkin