When and if Wlad beats Tyson...will he be above Lennox on the ATG list??

A past 30 Ali is MUCH better than anyone Wlad has on his resume.

The guy didn't even rematch Sanders ffs, what a joke! atschatsch

 

He'd taken a bad loss and had to go back to the drawing board with a new trainer, but the fact is Sanders abandoned the belt to fight Vitali for a lot more money. If Sanders had stuck around longer no doubt he would have rematched. Lewis McCall II should been an NC and rematched, if you want a joke there it is..

 

Wrong! He didn't rematch Sanders because he got so badly owned in the first one he knew he would have got sparked again in a second fight. That's why he had big brother Vitali step in and do his work for him, it's one of the most embarrassing ducks in recent times, pathetic really.

Klitschko fans, worse than Pac fans for being delusional. Probably the most delusional in boxing full stop.

 

getting instantly pasted out by a failed relic of the lewis era (who couldn't even get near a fight with lewis in his prime) was pretty definitive a statement on the gulf of class between the last atg and these 2 tag teaming pretenders.

he shouldda rematched straight out to prove he weas better than failed relic, but he ran in fear from the retiree. the first hw titlist in history to do so! another K bro first.

tis was prime wlad. no wonder he keeps such low standards in his post prime years.

 

BS pal, you are the deluded one. Sanders went for the cash like anybody with sense would have and that was Vitali and the WBC in Vegas , not Wlad and the WBO in some hall in Germany. And so what if he was a bit gun shy on an immediate rematch, big deal. He was still a young hw still learning, not a seasoned guy. He came back much stronger and has proved all you ****s wrong time and again since 03.

 

didn't rematch an appalling loss.


if wlad was so certain to kill sanders in the rematch why didn't he chase it badly? he needed it like a grade 3 cancer patient needs chemo.
That terrible loss to someone so weak was basically the same as writing "WLAD IS SHYTE" across wlads resume. It was his utmost imperative to remove it.

goodness sake, the man DIED and wlad still hadn't rematched him. Feel the fear.

 

41 fights not a seasoned guy atsch

It was an embarrassing loss followed by an equally shameful duck that was never avenged because it would have been the same result.

Wlad fighting fat out of shape cans for 10 years proves what exactly? It's the weakest HW era for decades, keep dreaming deluded Klitschko nuthugger.

 

wow and you claim the OP is deluded...

wlad was prime at 28, or do you mean he was a slow learner therefore was still "young" at 28. I don't mind you claiming that Wald was some kind of returd.

all hes proved is his own supporters like you are wrong.

Its been since 2003, and you STILL aren't asking yourself the right question - why he was facing a retired fatty failure in the first place.

 

He was still only 26/27 you twa t, still very much developing. He has been seasoned the past five or six years. And it's only a weak era in the US, and that's because both brothers cleaned it out.. got that you utter twa t?

 

27 when he got destroyed by sanders, 28 andonwards each year he didn't rematch him.

41 fights so I repeat if you want to claim wald is some kind of returded learner then fine. its your words.

 

The mere fact that us haters have to go full reterd in defending Lewis over Wlad tells you all you need to know....we are threatened because yes, Wlad is in fact clearly ahead of Lewis.

 

Not sure why I always insist my own words are other people's words. I guess I'm king of the straw man argument....or just some kind of dip sh!t.
My mother apologizes for my existence.

 

A) Disagree. Guys like Dundee and Pachecho say that 70's Ali was not the real Ali, because he had already lost his foot speed and stamina. He beat Foreman, he lost to Ken Norton. He also lost to Frazier, who would be a great CRUISER in today's era. He was a mixed bag. 60's Ali is the greatest. 70's Ali would not dominate in the super heavyweight era.

B) This is where quantity DOES count over quality. Norton got a lucky win over faded Ali, and a win over badly faded Quarry. That simply does not equal a decade of dominance over good names like Povetkin, Haye, Chagaev, Ibragimov, Peter, Mcline, Byrd, etc.

C) You are still missing the point...Larry's win over limited Norton is disputed. It is by no means a great win, but a near, skin of the teeth thing.

Which has nothing to do with his title reign. Larry OPENLY ducked Page and Thomas.

 

Why so mad bro? :rofl:rofl:rofl

 

Wlad is 39, fighting a young unbeaten giant.

Lennox was 2 years retired by that time, avoiding a fight against a giant in a rematch he himself promised.

I still believe Lennox is a more versatile, nastier fighter, but I believe Wlad will be above him. If he beats all the young guys that are coming up now, he will be top 3 ATG.

PS: I think Lennox would be a nightmare for Wlad in a match, but I wouldn't rule out Wlad KO victory.