When and if Wlad beats Tyson...will he be above Lennox on the ATG list??

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  1. andrewa1

    andrewa1 Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Good post.
     
  2. Asterion

    Asterion Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    If Wlad beats Fury, he and Lewis would be pretty close in the Top5 of heavyweight history. He is already closing the gap.

    If Wlad then beats Wilder and continues his reign, he would be above Lewis.
     
  3. yesihavearm2

    yesihavearm2 ESB Chinchecker Full Member

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    Why are you even commenting dude? I've already schooled you like 3 times in this thread and everytime you ignore or don't reply.

    Now can you tell me why beating two Glass Jawed jokes like Fury and the most padded resume in world boxing Wilder, would elevate Wlad over Lewis?

    Lewis would stomp those two jokes just as bad as Wlad will.
     
  4. Russian_Glass

    Russian_Glass Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Don't be ridiculous. Even if Wlad dominates for 5 more years and beats Fury, Wilder and Povodkin x2, he will still be below Lennox on the ATG list.
     
  5. brb

    brb Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You can't prove Lewis would beat Wlad.

    You can only compare accomplishments. Wlad will be ranked higher because he has achieved more.

    If Wlad beats Fury, he will have 5 more consecutive title defenses and 10 more altogether.

    Lewis blew his shot to fight Wlad from 2000-2003 (2001 & 2002 Wlad was his mandatory).

    Nothing more to tell you.
     
  6. yesihavearm2

    yesihavearm2 ESB Chinchecker Full Member

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    Anyone with eyes can see Lewis is the better fighter.

    Lewis was THE champ at that time and Wlad was a nobody.

    WRONG again Wlad hasn't achieved more than Lewis, Wlad has been a champ in the weakest HW era for decades fighting nothing but cans and not rematching Sanders. Lewis has wins over ATG's, HOF'ers and H2H is much better.

    Not even close, just another deluded Wlad fanboy.
     
  7. The Long Count

    The Long Count Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    The only fanboy here is you. Spending days and countless posts trying to make your argument.

    Wlad has more wins- not by a little but by a lot- 23 and counting. Against only 1 additional loss.
    He has the higher win percentage.
    He has more knockouts than Lewis had fights.
    He is currently on an 11 year unbeaten streak where no one has come close to defeating him.
    He has more lineal title defenses.
    He has more alphabet strap title defenses. Again by a wide margin.
    He has faced a wider variety of styles as champion.
    He has never dropped a belt to avoid a contender.
    He doesn't refuse to face southpaws. Lewis never faced any and he fought in an era of three good ones Byrd, Moorer, and Sanders. Reports were he couldn't deal with the stance.
    Against common opponents Mercer, Jackson, Rahman, and Botha Wlad performed way better. Granted they were all older and more diminished when Wlad faced them. He wiped out Mercer and Rahman. One ko'd Lewis and the other arguably defeated him on points, as many in the crowd felt Mercer won, as did the associated press, Philly news, mark Breland. Hbo scored it a draw.
    Wlad has defeated more prime opponents. I'll take a good prime opponent over a great past prime one or a corpse like mike tyson was. Who would go on to lose 2 of his final three bouts to Kevin mcbride and Danny Williams.
    Or Holyfield who would get a gift against Ruiz in his next bout, then lose, then draw, then lose three in a row to Byrd, Toney and Donald.
    Wlad faces guys at their best, he has 18 consecutive title defenses. He has collected 4 belts and counting. He had to defeat a game fighter every-time. In the case of the WBA he had to defeat two champions because Chagaev didn't put the belt on the line. Lewis was awarded his belt without having to fight for it. Then after losing it won it back against a man in McCall that should not have been allowed in the ring.
    Listen if people choose Lewis over Wlad fine. They are both great. And a great debate can be made. I choose Wlad. But to hear some of these Lewis fanboys acting like their is some big gulf between them is simply ridiculous. You can't have Lewis on some pedastal and claim Wlad isn't close to him. They were talking about Wlad fighting Lewis in a mega fight in 2001. It's nearly 2016 and Wlad is still on top. That is incredible domination. And that is fact.
     
  8. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I am a Lewis guy for life, but in all fairness, I think that you have hit on the fact that Wlad's stock is going to improve as Povetkin, Pulev, Jennings, etc go on to do things in the future.

    I have Lewis as anywhere from 1-4, and Wlad something like 7 and climbing, so it is not like I hate on either fighter.
     
  9. timeout

    timeout Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    You are defo an independent and unbiased man to ask russian glass:rofl:rofl:patsch

    Ydksab son
     
  10. brb

    brb Boxing Addict Full Member

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    So let me guess, you have made every correct boxing match prediction. I tip my hat to you, you are a prodigy.

    Wlad was a titlist that had won the Olympic Gold Medalist who was physically bigger than Lewis. Not a nobody as you claim.

    Again, you are just so remarkably knowledgeable about boxing and know all of the worst eras that existed and why they existed.

    You are truly amazing.
     
  11. mirkofilipovic

    mirkofilipovic ESB Management Full Member

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    They need a list composed by Nationalist, old white, self hating American males to make themselves feel better about themselves. :deal
     
  12. RememberingC.S.

    RememberingC.S. Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    So prime Rahman was enough to annihilate Lummox with a single punch, yet Wladimir dominated and stopped him in only 7 rounds without breaking a sweat.

    Lummox***ual post self-annihilates once again.
     
  13. RememberingC.S.

    RememberingC.S. Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Ruddock :rofl

    How about Chrys Byrd, that Lummox DROPPED THE BELT to avoid fighting.

    Y'all Lummo***uall always tryna act like Lummox didn't do the most shameful admission of defeat in boxing and dropped it :lol:
     
  14. Russian_Glass

    Russian_Glass Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Wlad is not Russian, so your comment makes no sense.

    Lennox Lewis and Wlad Klitschko should never be mentioned in the same sentence. One is a highly respected boxer who never ducked anyone, avenged all his loses and has multiple ATGs on his resume, and the other is Wlad Klitschko (no disrespect to Wlad).
     
  15. Jon Saxon

    Jon Saxon Active Member Full Member

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    Naive thread.

    Lewis, it's not even close and it never will be.