When Calazaghe moved up to LHW, Who else...

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  1. Jordan_Davies

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    Honestly Dawson,

    With Calzaghe fading slightly and making a habit of starting slow Dawson would have taken the first 2 rounds with a possible knockdown. Dawson starts to become complacent and Calzaghe's work rate increases over the next few rounds until around the 10th where Dawson decides to wake the **** up and fight back but by then Calzaghe has adjusted and takes the fight under control but with some good exchanges resulting in a Calzaghe UD. 117-111 116-112 115-113

    Pavlik on the other hand would end up getting stopped, he lost to a much smaller south paw in Martinez who was able to cut him up. Calzaghe's slow start wouldnt cause any damage as Pavlik isnt the best mover, Calzaghe picks up the pace and opens a cut above the eyes of Pavlik which would eventually end up in a TKO stoppage depending of course on the officials and cornermen, doctor etc.

    Hopkins on the other hand would be a carbon copy of their first fight with no knockdown this time around, Calzaghe is cautious and controls the pace of the fight with hopkins having his moments that are of course overshadowed by his attempts to catch his breath whilst faking low blows, headbutting etc. leading to a Calzaghe UD
     
  2. HOF

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    Dawson was undefeated at the time with wins over Adamek, Johnson and Tarver under his belt and was seen as the heir apparent to the division. He was also a legitimate career light heavyweight so would've been a more credible win than an unbeaten Pavlik jumping to light heavy. A win at that time over Dawson would have given Calzaghe proper legitimacy as a light heavy, as well as another win against a youthful unbeaten world champion. Even though Calzaghe was on the slide at the time, Dawson's need to take breathers during fights would have made it a winnable fight. Unfortunately, a meaningless Jones Jr fight carried more cash.
     
  3. JOSEY WALES

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    Agreed the only saving grace of the Calzaghe v Jones fight was rabbit hole and co not getting any of their greedy paws on the purse . Hated seeing a former master boxer get a hiding like the one Roy revived but we all know the result meant sweet f@ck all in terms of esteem for Joe but they both earnt each other some decent coin for their efforts , just a pity Roy couldn't let things go at that .
     
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  6. toffeejack

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    I'm a huge Calzaghe fan but the one thing that narks me about him is that he should have fought Pavlik instead of Jones to finish his career.

    He would have destroyed Pavlik and probably stopped him which would have made him look brilliant again and would have been a much better way to finish his career.
     
  7. ElCep

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    Dawson was the premier candidate, a young undefeated titlist in their prime. Pavlik was up there as well. Tarver would have been a very credible opponent too.
     
  8. JOSEY WALES

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    Joe was done by the time he best Kessler and he knew it , after the Hopkins fight he checked out v Roy because he knew Roy didn't have any promoters to pay so it made sense financially if not in terms of legacy .
     
  9. Earl-hickey

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    I didn't.

    We are talking about a man who had no issues with taunting, mocking and clowning overmatched, hand picked opponents a few years prior.

    Bittersweet irony for Jones that night, he wasn't badly hurt, just got a dose of humility.
     
  10. JOSEY WALES

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    Each to their own I guess .
     
  11. brown bomber

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    And while he was blatantly roiding
     
  12. brown bomber

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    It's just a shame Calzaghe was with that particular promoter he probably had the talent to have a much more legitimate career. What he achieved was pretty spectacular but he could have being a very legitimate champion - instead it was one low key defence after another - interspersed with diposed champions before finally stepping up in his last few fights.
     
  13. TIGEREDGE

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    if yer want to be really sceptical he should of went up to cruiser and challenged haye. he was still cruiser at the time lol

    surprised no ones aimed that at him. some people hold it against hagler for not fighting spinks ha to name some ha
     
  14. TIGEREDGE

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    youve got yer facts wrong there. dawson beat tarver in 09. he was only a champ from late 2007 and struggled to beat johnson first time in 08. some reckon he could of lost
     
  15. Earl-hickey

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    I still find it funny when it comes to Calzaghe, I was reading the 'scene "staff picks" for Calzaghe vs Lacy the other day, and it was like 18-2 in Lacy's favour, almost all by mid round stoppage.

    Most of them were like "Calzaghe is a solid champion, but Lacy is just on the next level, Calzaghe will fight bravely but be outgunned by Lacy, who is ready to stake his claim for p4p top 10"

    The Americans were well and truly banging the Lacy drum, but the revisionist history is hilarious, if you listen to the average American poster, Lacy was always a bum, who no Americans ever cared about, and it was a **** win by cherry picking Calzaghe