When Calzaghe beat Lacy - Lacy was

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  1. planetzion

    planetzion Well-Known Member Full Member

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    an over hyped prospect and a bum (before that he was the next big thing at 168, a super star in the making and was going to demolish Joe Calz)

    when he beat Kessler, Kessler was untested euro trash (before that he was a multiple 168lb belt holder and the the guy that was going to walk through the aging Calzaghe, Joes tuffest test)

    when he beat Hopkins, Hopkins was a forty year old former champ who got old over night (before that he was the linea 175 lb champ who was ageless and going to clinic that untested euro bum Calzaghe..)

    so when Joe beats Pavlik (the current 160lb superstar with led in both fists who can shoot fire out his ass)

    ...who and what is Pavlik going to be next??
     
  2. planetzion

    planetzion Well-Known Member Full Member

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    pavlik will then become the overhyped new comer whos only wins were over a bum like Jermain Taylor who really got gift decisions anyway....so **** Calzaghe he still hasnt proved himself

    you know its true :smoke
     
  3. Betty Swollocks

    Betty Swollocks James 'Lights Out' Toney Full Member

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    all true, sadly.

    I remember reading a couple of the high profile US boxing websites claim before the fight that Lacy was the hardest p4p puncher in the sport :lol: and generally talking him up massively. I remember laughing out loud reading all that, but it was even worse on here.
    Lacy actually was a clear favourite with the sportsbooks by fight time. Amazing what hype can do.
     
  4. Caliboxing

    Caliboxing Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Pavlik is gonna be the man to take Calzaghe's belts.
     
  5. planetzion

    planetzion Well-Known Member Full Member

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    oh yeah I forgot all that....thats right Calzaghe beat up on a smaller guys and it doesnt count because he is picking the easy fights...lol:lol::lol::lol:
     
  6. planetzion

    planetzion Well-Known Member Full Member

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    maybe...maybe not....
     
  7. daredevil1989

    daredevil1989 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    hopkins did take calzaghe to school taught him a good thing or two about technique....calzaghe was embarassing in that fight :lol:
     
  8. planetzion

    planetzion Well-Known Member Full Member

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    um yeah hops took him to school right up until the point when hops lost...:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl **** thats a dumb argument....Calzaghe embaressed himself into the win...**** me :rofl

    hops looked great in certain parts...fully agree...he is a living legend..but **** man he lost...I am refering to idiots that were predicting a hopkins clinic

    hops stopped thowing punches after the knock down....thats really taking someone to school isnt it
     
  9. Ambition_Def

    Ambition_Def **** the people. Full Member

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    Lacy was hyped sure. But if you go back some time you'll recall that I picked Calzaghe to win that fight.

    As hard as Lacy can hit he is very slow and very predictable. He doesn't punch as straight as Pavlik either.

    Lacy was forced to go inside on Joe and try to land. He could not land his vaunted left hook because at Joe's distance he was playing Joe's slapping game. Joe would just slip the left hook and pitty pat 3-4 unanswered punches.

    At range Calzaghe is not as effective. If he misses he misses big. He can be caught better when he lunges with punches as well. That's kinda how BHop was able to catch him early on. He knew how Joe liked to put his head down and lunge in with the left. So he took a step back and then fired off the right hand as Joe tried to close the gap.

    Even against Kessler, Joe's flurry style was limited. He was forced to punch and tie up. Had Kessler been less gunshy he could have hit Calzaghe at will with that jab and right hand. But he let the crowd get into his game and it distracted him. He was too timid to get the job done.

    Pavlik has the reach, the piston jab and the right attitude as well as a concussive right hand to stop Joe. If Pavlik can deal with the pro-Welsh crowd he will easily deal with Calzaghe. He has the length and the power to fight both going forwards and backwards. He can push Joe back with a hard jab or he can let Joe fall in and leave himself open to clean right hands. And as good as BHop is, remember he is 42 years old. Pavlik is almost half his age. His reflexes are much sharper.
     
  10. sean

    sean pale peice of pig`s ear Full Member

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    your opinion about winky wright and tarver must be that there corner`s are now refusing to be seen with them and are putting in there mouthpiece`s with a catapult , they are so embarressed to even be seen with them after hopkins .
     
  11. planetzion

    planetzion Well-Known Member Full Member

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    the point is what your doing right now....you are minimizing the fact that he won all of the fights in which you have just critizised his performances
     
  12. Ambition_Def

    Ambition_Def **** the people. Full Member

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    My point is that Calzaghe has flaws. Flaws which Pavlik will exploit all the way through.

    Joe may try to make it an ugly fight like he did against Kessler but Pavlik will not break like Kessler did. Pavlik is all about imposing his will on his opponent. Kessler doesn't have that same mental fortitude.
     
  13. planetzion

    planetzion Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Im not actually comparing Pavlik Calzaghe though...im really making an observation of boxing fandom....which is ****ing well fickle
     
  14. Stinky gloves

    Stinky gloves Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    The problem with Calzaghe is that he slaps not puch, so whoever he beat and no matter how he dominate his opponenet he will never have proper credit from boxing fans.
     
  15. Ambition_Def

    Ambition_Def **** the people. Full Member

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    Well I have always realized that Calzaghe is not perfect. One of the first times I ever saw him fight was against Byron Mitchell. And to be completely honest I wasn't sure how this guy had gotten so far.

    But watching the rest of his fights I came to the conclusion that Lacy just didn't have the style or the speed to trouble Calzaghe. But even then Calzaghe looked masterful. I gotta give him that.

    Against Kessler I was expecting Kessler to win. I knew it would be tough though I was not expecting Joe to fight such a shitty clutch and lunge fight. His style that night really turned me off to his future.

    Against BHops I just expected the fight to be horrible. I didn't think in a million yeasrs that BHops would drop Calzaghe in the first. But that just underlines the fact that since the Mitchell fight Calzaghe has had that same flaw of dropping his head and leading with the left.

    I just think Pavlik has the right size, style, speed and power to exploit that weakness.