When Calzaghe defeats Kessler, his legacy...

Then clearly you think it's a forgone conclussion that Calzaghe is going to win. Which would leave me to believe that you don't believe Kessler to be much a challenge. Am I correct?

 

Calzaghes record is probably already superior. Calzaghe beat an all time top 168 pounder, Tszyu hasn't done that. Tszyu has lost, Calzaghe hasn't.

If Calzaghe beats Kessler he is the best super middleweight ever, bar none.

 

Good answer. Can't wait for the fight

 

Kostya was a great fighter,but honour where honour is due.If Joe beats Kessler in a convincing fashion he for sure should be viewed as the fighter who has achieved more in his pro career.

 

Another stupidity advertising thread:-(

 

I would put Calzaghe ahead by a little bit 'when'/if he beats Kessler. As to how they rank at present, I'd agree with Amsterdam, they are pretty even to me; Tszyu has a bad loss in his prime but has strung together slightly better wins.

Kessler is in his prime and is a titlist at the weight, so it has the potential to be a big win for Joe. However, beating Kessler to me is not a great feat in and of itself: even at his best, Mikkel is very robotic and somewhat one dimensional, and I believe a prime Calzaghe would have an easier night than I'm predicting we'll see on November 3rd. The only thing that makes this fight interesting to me is the fact that Calzaghe is an older fighter now, which gives Kessler a realistic chance to become #1 at the weight.

 

That right cross will rake Calzaghe quite a few times, he's always been susceptible to those (as are most southpaws). But yes he is the more complete fighter. We'll have to agree to disagree as to how a 45 year old Joe would fare though. :yep

 

Exactly.

 

if jc beats kessler then b-hop then RJJ and then fights taylor at 168 i say he smashes kt legacy wise even if t2 out of the 4 are old

 

I agree with Amsterdam that at the moment Calzaghe isn't rated above Tszyu, in my personal opinion. Tszyu has beaten better opposition overall, and dominated his division in similar yet diffrent fashion (he cleaned his tough division out and became undisputed champion, Calzaghe defended a nothing title many times in a not-so-tough division). You can't look past Tszyu's amateur accomplishments when looking at his career, neither.

IF Calzaghe were to beat Kessler, it would certainly make it a lot easier to argue Calzaghe's legacy is greater than Tszyu's. But I think it's going to be a lot more difficult than some are thinking... As much as a 50/50 fight as can be (but to each his own).

 

It'll be just a lil bit more than it was from beating the other hyped up job Lacy :yep

 

:huh

I thought you rated Kessler? He DID beat Mundine, although people here will have you believe he did it easier than he truly did.

EDIT: Or is this you trying to say people aren't going to rate Calzaghe cause they didn't AFTER he beat Lacy, who many were saying before the fight was going to KO Calzaghe? Cause many people before the Tyson-Lewis fight were saying the same, but that doesn't make Lewis's win any greater.

Sorry for misunderstanding you. Still haven't picked up on your humour I've noticed in the Aussie forum