When did all this catch weight started!

B Hop and Oscar is a good recent shout, technically both were MW Champs when they unified at a cw.

 

Martinez-Williams II as well

 

Floyd vs Canelo.

 

Well he was sure as hell more of a true Jr MW fighter than Canelo is a MW fighter now.

He had already fought at the Jr MW weight limit twice before, won there recently and held a belt at that weight. It wasn’t like Floyd was moving up to a weight he had never fought at before (like SRL vs Lalonde or something) where catchweights have been done in the past.

When both fighters hold titles in a weight division, as was the case for Floyd vs Canelo, and you have a catchweight in a fight that’s actually a unification fight for that division, that’s a same division catchweight. Most of the catchweights you are talking about historically (before this recent trend of same division catchweights) happened when a champion in one division (like Middlewight) went up to meet a champion of another division (like Light Heavyweight).

In situations like that, thats when a catchweight makes sense, like SRL Lalonde or countless other examples. When two fighters hold belts in a division, have both already fought and won titles in that division at the full limit, it is completey absurd to have a catchweight in a unification fight. What made it more ridiculous was the fact that Floyd made a big deal about not having a catchweight when he fought Cotto at 154.

From any angle, Floyd vs Canelo was a same division catchweight, and clearly it was the moment that started this trend of same division catchweights in the last few years. Once Floyd managed to get Canelo to agree to a catchweight, well then everyone started doing it, because Floyd did it. You are still trying to find ways to give Floyd a pass on this, like saying Floyd Canelo wasn’t a same division catchweight.

 

Run away then. You’re saying you don’t consider Floyd to be a true Jr MW. Do you consider Canelo to be a true MW now?

Your reasoning doesn’t add up from my perspective. You are making excuses for Floyd saying it wasn’t a same division catchweight. What is the pre-requistites then for you to consider something a same division catchweight? If two guys hold titles in a weight division and they fight, it’s a same division catchweight. That seems to be the one thing everyone agrees on, that for title fights in a division there should never ever ever ever ever be a catchweight.

..except when Floyd does it to Canelo in one of the biggest fights ever, then it’s perfectly okay for there to be a catchweight and is just ignored. Just look at now what Canelo is dealing with now in regard to GGG. Unlike Floyd at Jr MW, Canelo has never fought above 155 in his life. Canelo has more of a valid reason to have a 157-158 catchweight vs GGG than Floyd had vs Canelo.

I personally DON’T want to see a catchweight in Canelo vs GGG, I want to see it at 160 when Canelo outgrows 154, but all I’m saying is you and many other posters here aren’t being real in calling Floyd out. If you hate same division catchweights and you want to have credibility, then you gotta call out and criticize Floyd for what he did. Canelo’s being criticized for stuff that he hasn’t ever done (like draining someone) yet no one seems to care that Floyd didn’t defend his 154-lb titles for 2 years and didn’t have to defend them or that Floyd drained Canelo after saying he doesn’t do catchweights.