When did boxers start using higher guards with regularity?

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  1. mrkoolkevin

    mrkoolkevin Gone Till November Full Member

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    It does. I wonder if the fighters used the same types of shoulder rolls with it.
     
  2. greynotsoold

    greynotsoold Boxing Addict Full Member

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    In his book, written in 1940, Edwin L Haislet teaches using the shoulders to defend against the right hand. He had been the boxing instructor at U of Minnesota for 13 years at that point, and was considered on of the top amateur trainers of the day.
     
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    Wass1985 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    When Tyson started taking PED's and knocking fighters out (Seldon) with misses? :)
     
  4. Bokaj

    Bokaj Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    To me the big change seems to have come in the 30's-40's, with the guard going from waist level, to chest level or below the chin in general. After that the changes seems to me to have been pretty minor for the next four decades or so, but for the last 20-30 years I'd say that the guars have become higher below MW/SMW.

    The biggest guys on the other hand have rather gone in the other direction. But I can't come to think of many 130-140 lbs fighters of recent years with both hands low. Their guards are in the most cases up to the cheekbone/temple from what I've seen. Yes, you can find moments where Loma taunts opponents with his hands very low, but this is when he feels secure enough in his superiority to showboat, not when he respects the danger the opponent poses.
     
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  5. roughdiamond

    roughdiamond Bronsonville Full Member

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    Also Canzoneri - Mclarnin. And Canzoneri - Kid Chocolate. Hell, just watch Canzoneri peroid lol.
     
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    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist Full Member

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    Does it correlate with increased glove size?
     
  7. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft 'Snarky Little Gobshite' - IntentionalButt Full Member

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    Prograis?
     
  8. Bokaj

    Bokaj Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Haven't watched him. Does he have both hands low?
     
  9. Kamikaze

    Kamikaze Be real• Full Member

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    In the sport the standard modern guard developed in the 30s as a mainstream stance, but a preference of a high or low guard has in all possibility existed for as long as humans realised they could punch one another.
     
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  10. reznick

    reznick In the 7.2% Full Member

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    Nobody fights with both hands low.

    Except bums like Jack Johnson, whom senile nostalgists claim would have a chance against modern fighters who understand combos, jabs, and high guards.
     
  11. Kamikaze

    Kamikaze Be real• Full Member

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    Fighters are also a lot more thicc now, don’t forget the mass.
     
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    reznick In the 7.2% Full Member

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    Find me a moment in Langford vs Flynn, between the incessant clinching, where Flynn doesn’t use a high guard when Langford attacks.

    The Fireman invented the high guard confirmed.
     
  13. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft 'Snarky Little Gobshite' - IntentionalButt Full Member

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    Yeah, lots. His fight with Taylor is excellent if you haven't seen it. My pick for last year's FOTY.
     
  14. Bokaj

    Bokaj Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Thanks. Might watch it later.
     
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