when did Calzaghe become undisputed SMW champ

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  1. PH|LLA

    PH|LLA VIP Member Full Member

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  2. catasyou

    catasyou Lucian Bute Full Member

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    When he beat Kessler in november 07
     
  3. PH|LLA

    PH|LLA VIP Member Full Member

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    I agree thunder. I thought this was the consensus but surprisingly it seems its not so
     
  4. TFFP

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    Always has been.

    Fighters make belts :yep
     
  5. The Thruth!!!!!

    The Thruth!!!!! Active Member Full Member

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    I believe after he beat Kessler he was undisputed. Having won the IBF, WBO, WBC, and WBA. Took him long enough.
     
  6. box3r86

    box3r86 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    okay i miss read the thread, undisputed means 3 belts or more out of wbc, wba, ibf and wbo. however, after he beat lacy i believe he was no.1 and the best at 168 after lacy. plus the ring recognised him as no.1 after that fight.
     
  7. KO Boxing

    KO Boxing Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Officially, never. He was stripped of the IBF belt before the Kessler fight.

    Unofficially, after Kessler. It was after this fight, and ONLY after this fight, that he had now held ALL the belts - and had no more real challengers at SMW at that time.
     
  8. KO Boxing

    KO Boxing Boxing Addict Full Member

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    No it doesn't. Traditionally, it was holding ALL 3 of the recognized belts (WBC, WBA, IBF)... The WBO has never been a requisite, altough now that it has garnered a LITTLE more credibility, a true undisputed champion is likely to go after the WBO title too (provided the WBO champ is not a nobody, and has a legitimate claim to the throne).

    Unifying the WBC, WBA and WBO belts merely makes you a UNIFIED champ.

    As Calzaghe beat Lacy for the IBF and got stripped for fighting Manfredo, its ARGUABLE that Cal is the unofficial undisputed champ after Kess... Although he probably deserved to get stripped for fighting an ex-light-middleweight "contender"

    So never, officially.
     
  9. LiamE

    LiamE Boxing Addict Full Member

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    When he beat Mitchell who had just been robbed by Ottke.
     
  10. KO Boxing

    KO Boxing Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Beyer still held the WBC strap...
     
  11. Brickhaus

    Brickhaus Packs the house Full Member

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    It doesn't matter if he was stripped if he never lost it in the ring. :deal
     
  12. box3r86

    box3r86 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    so ok, there are like loads of varied definitions of the term undisputed.

    what is the actual definition?
     
  13. KO Boxing

    KO Boxing Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Officially it does.

    He never held the WBC, WBA and IBF belts together. THIS, hate to say it, is a requisite for an undisputed champion.

    How many times, however, have we heard Buffer say - "the unofficial, universally recognized undisputed champion"

    Calzaghe fits into that group.
     
  14. Axe

    Axe Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Don't go by what Buffer says.

    He introduced Hopkins as the "linear" champion at 175 in his last fight. :rofl
     
  15. doug.ie

    doug.ie 'Classic Boxing Society' Full Member

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    i remember being confused by the 'undisputed' tag for the calzaghe v kessler fight....when lucian bute was the current ibf champ...

    can you be undisputed champ in a weight while there is a different ibf champ also ??