They agreed Fury vs BRUTHA USKY for all the marbles then the big chinny weightlifter asked for more step aside money at the last moment. Now big Chinny AJ about to go 0-2 against a feather fisted cruiser, to go with his 1-1 against an obese grinning mexican middleweight.
You're grasping at straws and you're incredibly simple minded. The backbone of your argument is "Usyk Joshua 2 isn't signed so Fury doesn't need to wait, he should retire and forget about undisputed because we dont know how long it's going to take" undermining the fact that Fury could wait. Thats exactly what he was doing with Wilder. Or he could take a small fight in the meantime, i think thats exactly what he did in between Wilder 1 and 2, taking **** poor competition in the meantime like tune ups. You're logic is not good for boxing. Fury wants to retire because he doesn't want Usyk and wants to retire undefeated. But the reality is that legacy will always be tainted because of this, no matter how you want to look at it. You're arguments are air Boxing doesn't work like that
No it isn't. You are obviously having trouble reading what was written or trying to dodge the questions. Not just that it isn't signed which is a very big part, but that there is no date, no idea who he could be facing, that there could be a trilogy that he has to wait on, an injury he could have to wait on to name a few So back to the question again How long should Fury have to wait around? once again For how long? Knowing that the Wilder fight was agreed, if they both got through, whereas here. See above. We don't know anything or the possible scenarios my asking a question isn't about boxing logic, it is asking the question of how long should Fury have to wait around and you keep seeming to duck the specific question. You talk if small fights and tune ups but never answer lol. possibly? Though I seem to recall reading a link on this very thread that I think you may have posted that indicated the fight was wanting to be made but a step aside couldn't be agreed, so I'm not sure quite how you are coming to that opinion when it had been looked to have been made only for Fury to be having to wait around. With that in mind it looks like he was already waiting around then and there is still no date for Usyk/Joshua I expect so. I imagine many would want that. Not sure what you struggle with there? Tainted for not wanting to wait around for an unsigned, non agreed possible fight? I don't think his legacy of winning WBC, WBA, IBF, WBO and lineal titles will be damaged at all. As well as having beaten two long reigning champions. Some may think it could worse for Usyk in that he didn't go up and look for the lineal champ, and that he didn't look as good against a faded opponent that the lineal champ looked more impressive against. Now I don't think that either. I rate Fury and Usyk as two top fighters and the top two HWs. I just can't agree with you that it is a problem for Fury to retire when he is waiting on two other fighters For Usyk, assuming he beats Joshua again, he has a big fight with Joshua and can then look for a big fight with Fury whereas Fury is in your opinion just supposed to hang around for an infinite amount of time, and I say infinite as you won't commit to answering the questions posed to you
Ducking a question that will have no merit in the upcoming few months when Usyk/Joshua 2 gets confirmed ? You posting essays aren't making your argument any stronger. You ask how long does he have to wait ? He should wait until it's confirmed and fight another top guy in meantime. Thats what a fighter who wants to be great is supposed to do. You're basing half the argument on the fact that Usyk/Joshua 2 doesn't have a venue YET so your saying everything is speculative and therfore Fury shouldn't wait for an unknown anount of time and should just retire, but when it does get confirmed and it does happen, your argument will fall apart and i can guarantee the fight will happen sometime this year. I'll come back just to your comment when it happens and quote you. How about that ? He was waiting for Joshua to accept the step aside, not for Joshua to fight Usyk. Joshua did agree for one fight, Whyte agreed as well, Usyk/Fury was agreed for june because of Ramadan during april. Fury thought 8 months out the ring was too long for a fight with Usyk and pulled out. Usyks promoter even said the blame was on Fury rather than anyone else Many also want to see Fury fight the winner of Usyk/Joshua to determine who is truly number one. But instead Fury wants to retire and it isn't even a health concern retiring from boxing considering he wants to fight Francis Ngannou, one of the biggest punchers in martial arts history. No he just ducking Usyk because he believes Usyk will beat Joshua again and he knows Usyk can beat him Did you just say an infinite amount of time ? (lol) You just pulled Tyson waiting an infinite amount of time out of your ass just because Usyk/Joshua 2 isn't confirmed yet. How nonsensical can you get ? He has a good legacy, but it's not an great legacy. Wilders reigned over tin cans and his best win is still to this day Luis Ortiz, and Klitschko was very good but past his prime, looked like crap against Jennings prior and didn't win any fights afterwards. Since Fury's retired, it's going to stay that way. The names matter more than belts. Because he retired before getting a crack at the Usyk/Joshua winner, he's not an ATG and the notion that he retired on top makes no sense since Usyk has already dominated Joshua, took all of his belts, and still remains undefeated.
LoL some of you guys are real dramaqueens. F... the belts. F... tune ups, Fury is not motivated by fighting smaller fish. If Usyk beats AJ or if AJ beats Usyk I’m sure Fury will get an offer to fight the winner regardless who has the belts and who is retired. When that day comes I’m sure Fury will be up for another fight.
So ducking again lol. That wasnt my only question and you know that. So one more try... Copied and pasted below Not just that it isn't signed which is a very big part, but that there is no date, no idea who he could be facing, that there could be a trilogy that he has to wait on, an injury he could have to wait on to name a few So back to the question again How long should Fury have to wait around? I was putting forward a question. Not so much an argument. It is obviously a very strong question as you have made every attempt to not give a straight answer to it So you couldnt answer. Just like I guessed Wait on others? Really? But of course with no timescale in your opinion Quote me on asking a question. By all means. Of course you can. As said it is not just about a fight not being signed. Once again, see above Can you show me the full link of Fury pulling out of an agreed fight with Usyk? If that is correct Of course. Most fans would say that. Myself included, I just cant see a problem with someone retiring when they dont know where they are going waiting on others. I didnt pull it out of anywhere. See above. The question you keep ducking. I asked how long should he have to wait around when nobody knows the scenarios that may unfold. I wrote Which you can see above, based on you still not giving an answer to the original question The belts Fury relinquished do you mean? You say I have no argument but your argument is the champion - - Should just hand around and wait on others - Cant retire because a fight may get signed by a contender and wait around to see on the outcome and if they are having a trilogy or any other scenario and you wont just answer a simple question. Make it easy on yourself, forget the rest of this post and just answer with, how long you think Fury should have to wait around on others? A simple timescale argument. Not take other fights, wait and see's or any other limp answer. Just a straight answer
Pages of dramatic bickering over whether or not we'll see a matchup that any discerning fight fan knows is nailed-on, i.e. Fury vs. the winner of Usyk/Joshua II. Guys who act like Fury won't be coming back for that fight are just desperate for sticks to beat him with. The kind of suckers who were claiming David Price would beat him ten years ago.
You keep posting the same nonsense. I answered your question. Ill copy and paste because you keep posting it over and over again. You posting essays aren't making your argument any stronger. You ask how long does he have to wait ? He should wait until it's confirmed and fight another top guy in meantime. Thats what a fighter who wants to be great is supposed to do. You're basing half the argument on the fact that Usyk/Joshua 2 doesn't have a venue YET so your saying everything is speculative and therfore Fury shouldn't wait for an unknown anount of time and should just retire. There is no date set for Joshua/Usyk so it's not known how long Fury would wait but Joshua/Usyk will happen this year. So as of now we don't know how long Fury would have to wait. Thats another answer. But that would go for every fight in the negotiation stage, so in perspective, you keep asking a nonsensical question to cope with the fact that Fury is retiring from to sport to eventually avoid fighting the unified champion. You're argument is contingent on the fact that as of now Usyk/Joshua 2 is not signed. So you keep asking how long does he have to wait, trying to repeat the same question like a parrot and trying to fill in the unknown gaps with ridiculous amounts of time like saying "Fury waiting an infinite amount of time" but when that fight does get signed, confirmed, and set. You're going to look pretty stupid. And when they actually fight, you're question will be pointless. Like i said. I'll come back just to your comment when it gets confirmed and happens and quote you. How about that ? See above And when the fight gets signed and happens there will be no weight in your repeated question https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.da...ands-Oleksandr-Usyk-deal-convoluted-Arum.html https://www.boxing247.com/boxing-ne...ght-before-usyk-match-says-eddie-hearn/211294 Nobody knows how any scenerio would unfold during negotiations. The point is basic and shallow. You're logic is because that fight isn't signed, Fury should retire even though there are more fights he can take in the meantime. He could fight the winner of Joyce/Parker, a fight that is confirmed.
My point was I have no problem with someone retiring when there is no certain future. Now just to cut it all down. Considering any possible scenarios How long do you think Fury should have to wait around? You haven't answered anything else yet still continued to post. So simple question, simple answer