When did Joshua's résumé become overrated?

Decent point but Wilder was a hypejob, that whole period was overran to pick up losses, Fury, AJ and Wilder all have overrated resumes.

 

Far to many scurrying about

 

It's a real problem and tends to be how forums die out ("communities of practice"). Whilst I've never been banned and I don't call for bans of individual posters (even trolls), alt accounts should not be a thing.

I have noticed individual posters over the years getting banned along with a troll (as an argument escalates). That individual poster gives up on the forum, and the troll cycles to their next alt. Until the ban is up on the original account of course. The other poster that was adding a new point of view doesn't always return though.

There used to be some interesting (if a bit passionate at times) fans of Usyk, starting new threads, giving updates from non-English media. They got pushed out by this nonsense

 

I'm a fan of both Usyk and Fury, but this new crop of Usyk fans are borderline unhinged. You'd think he's the second coming of Christ the way some people act.

 

As it was with Wilder, Joshua, Fury.
Usyk has earnt his flowers so they are going to be feeling themselves. Plus with Ukraine at war, maybe some slack can be given. I'm sure the knives will come out, and a lot of "I told you so" threads will be made if he loses, and we will have ourselves a four way Survivor Series of fanatics

 

If Belly pulls off a win against Usyk that will change quick smart.

 

I get the impression you hold learning and filler fights with a bit more value than some?
Nothing wrong with that as it is all about opinions

If say you swapped Joshua and Wilders resume from their respective fights before their world title fights onwards up to Joshuas first Ruiz fight, how would you rate their resumes then?

So for example Wilder would have his first 31 fights and Joshua his first 14

Wilder would have been 39-0 (38kos,), WBA, WBO, IBF champion
With wins over Whyte, Martin, Wladimir, Parker, Povetkin a winner of 7 world title fights and 2 unification fights

Based on around the same time if swapped
Joshua would be 25-0-1 (23kos), WBC champion
With wins over Stiverne, Ortiz, Breazeale and a draw with Fury
A winner of 9 world title fights


How would you have viewed both then with the longer learning and filler fights?

 

Are you aware that Wilder signed to fight Povetkin in Russia in 2016 and that the fight was only cancelled due to Povetkin testing positive? Which side of the street was Povetkin on? How about Molina and Breazeale? Andy Ruiz? Is Fury distinctly in one pond? It's not a black and white situation and it comes down to who you believe ducked the fight when the truth is the promoters of both fighters got greedy, overmarinated, and took L's. Fury was meant to provide Wilder with UK exposure and a name boost, and Ruiz (Miller) was meant to provide Joshua with American exposure. It didn't work.

As to your second question, I'm not sure you understand what a "rubber match" is. If you were following the sport from 2016-2019 you'd know very well that the prospective bout between Wilder and Joshua was widely known as the new "Fight of the Century". It's really all anyone who followed heavyweights 7 years ago talked about. Here's an ESPN article referencing what I've explained in my posts.

https://www.espn.com/boxing/story/_...rests-anthony-joshua-deontay-wilder-shoulders

 

I'm am aware. You are brushing under the carpet a lot irregularities about what happened with Povetkin and Wilder.

Fury already got a draw and won the rematch. Fight three was a dead rubber match.

ESPN is not impartial, I'm not bothering with that as a source. And it doesn't call Wilder v Joshua "fight of the century". A quick search of the article could have told you that...

 

@Slyk I'm trying to be fair here, so I did a forum search, but on the first four pages it's only you that's actually referring to a potential matchup between Wilder and Joshua as "fight of the century". Maybe a promoter floated the idea one time, I don't know
Search Results for Query: "fight of the century" | Boxing News 24 Forum

 

Dating back to when, 2023? That wouldn't have anything to do with what I'm referencing then, would it? I linked you an article from 2018, but feel free to dig through old forum posts or do some googling yourself. Just trying to be fair here.

 

You said "Btw, I'm not sure why you keep using "Fight of the Century" for a dead rubber match." referencing Wilder-Joshua, not Fury Wilder III. It's okay to make mistakes.

ESPN is referencing "The Fight of the Century" in an article discussing the prospective bout between Wilder and Joshua, saying that the division rests on their shoulders. They're implying that this is the next great HW fight for this era. I'm not sure why you're trying to argue that, it most definitely was at the time.

Did you follow boxing from 2016-2019? Are you trying to imply that it was clearly the Joshua era and that that wasn't a big fight? I'm really not sure what you're trying to prove. You seem a bit slow and catty for the sake of being catty.

 

Lol okay, mate.

I'll give it a google
https://www.google.com/search?q="fi...Hm1M&sclient=mobile-gws-wiz-serp#ip=1&vuanr=4

Yeah, I'm not seeing it

Think you are overstating the acceptance of "fight of the century" to say this was just a me problem not knowing what you were referring to