Imagine Pac, JMM, MAB, EM all retired today.... fast forward 5-10 years from now.....How'd you remember this PAC's era???? I was 11 when I started Watching Duran, SRl & Hearns Era.... When I see their old fights I find myself stuck watching their fight again. I'll tell myself "these are the days of Great fights, daym they really are Good!!!" I've seen Chavez, taylor & Whitaker fights & they are not that impressive & enjoyable fight to watch. Pac was far from retirement & every time & again I'll pop his DVD fights & I have the same enjoyment as watching SRL, Duran & Hearns fights. Im my View pac was at par in excitement & more impressive against elite competition in his Era. DEfinitely on the way to Alltime Greatness.
pac's a hall of fame fighter right now imo, he reached that status after those fights with mab, jmm, morales 3x. if he beats jmm or guzman his next couple of fights then that's ATG territory. he hangs in a bit more and waits for linares et al. to come up and beats them, thats top 30 territory for me. israel vasquez is also calling for a pac fight, his scalp would be a good addition, and i'm a vasquez fan. if he beats (which would require divine intervention) juan diaz at 135, then thats top 20 territory, for me.
IMO Soto and Valero are not great boxers. I think the thoughest fights for him are Guzman and Marquez. Do you think that he has done enough to be in the HOF/ATG?
Woud you vote for him as Hall of Famer now? When do you think he achieved that? Would you consider him as an ATG now?
I respect your opinion, but there is a big difference. Morales losing his next ten fights would be like Gatti losing his next ten fights, but if Pac who is in his prime loses 4 fights in a raw, then that's something different.... Don't you think?
What's your pick? Can you tell us when did he achieve both status? Exitement is great and I love it, but that doesn't take you to the HOF.
HOF yes. ATG not yet. Personally, I think Pac should a boxer in his prime to get that status. Somebody like a prime Junior Jones or Kennedy Mckinney. I know theyre both retired but somebody like them. I know Pac destryoed Morales but Zahir Raheem gets no credit for softening him up and Marquez and Pac did have a draw.
pac is already a 3-division and a 2-time lineal champ. he has also KO'd ATGs morales and barrera... HOF is a no-brainer but isn't these accomplishments already enough for ATG status? many HOFers haven't achieved the accomplishments pac has as of now.
Those guys were destroyed already by MAB & EM, Pac destroyed both HOF guys when they were 29 yrs old. MAB continue to be a top notch fighter after Pac beating. EM could win his 4th title on December. Pac will be 29 in December, Do you expect Pac to be a Shot fighter next year???? Raheem got no Credit coz he Proved he's a fluke fighter losing to Freitas in an ugly fight & stink the joint in his next fight with a Nobody. After beating MAB, Pac almost finished JMM in 1 rd, then KOed EM twice in a Trilogy. Name me one present Fighter who accomplished that kind of feat???