I know you're pissed off on how things went down and if you were there and had insight on things.. I can see your point as I wasn't there so I will defer to you … BUT to say that fight was a robbery is taking it too far.. that is an emotional comment as that fight was one of the closest title fights in history.. Hardly a robbery which is the wrong word, imo .. If you can look at things objectively, you will see Hagler blew that fight bigtime imo… And I'm not trying to take anything away from Ray but I think Hagler blew that fight more than Ray took it … I too agree that Hagler should have got the nod, don't feel Ray did enough to take his title .. But that is in only my opinion .. but not a robbery mate
Marvin was shafted? He took the challenge and came out right handed because he thought he had an easy fight in front of him. Whose fault was that? And he was mad after when Ray had more than he thought and took everything Hagler had. It was a close fight, but Ray fought at the end of the rounds and got the momentum. Ray didn't shaft Marvin. Marvin should have taken him seriously. That was his fault. And with Donald? I still don't see how Ray really got to him. Donald trusted Ray and assumed he was retired. And he was not. Hearns would have told Donald. don't trust Ray. Fact is Hagler would not have fought Donald anyway.
marvin hagler is 92-0 with 106 ko's according to him and his delusional nut job fans .. there's a small group of fighters that anytime they're brought up .. the bleeding heart excuse mobile comes screeching up out front ... haglers one of them .. always a bucket of excuses for why everyone was out to get ol marvin
Most of the ringside and experts had it for Leonard regardless. The "W" looks extremely good on his record and definitely better than a loss.
See you say in a nicer was than I did everyone knows Leonard is a snake in the grass POS. Don wanted him bad Leiobard didn't want to know he wasnt man enough
Not so much a hero more of a friend. Honeyghan got lucky Don had got the flu Dave wanted top pull him out but Muhammad insisted he fought
I just wish I;d been there that day that another friend from Texas Quincy Taylor sparred with Leonard & knocked his ass out. They said he didn't go down but was unconscious on his feet. Refused to spar Quincy again LOL
right he was sick that's what did it .. now whose making excuses and being phony .. lmfao he was sick so and so got lucky .. ok .. then what about when mike knocked his head off that luck and the flu too?? .. keep living a lie
Donald might have wanted him, but Ray was smart. In his second career the guys who were good he had already fought them like Hearns and Duran and beaten them, so a loss to those guys would not have been too bad since he beat them already. And Lalonde was handpicked. I don't think Ray would have fought Donald Curry no matter what. Hagler? I don't see Hagler sticking around to fight Donald, I think after Hearns he lost his motivation. He got the fame and recognition he wanted after Hearns, I don't think he wanted more like Ray did.
I agree. What I could see with Marvin coming in right handed he didn't really think Ray had much, so he thought he could mess around and try other things and Ray took the momentum. And Ray fighting at the end of each round. I felt sorry for Marvin after that fight but he didn't respect Ray as a challenge enough to really fight that fight to win the way he should have.
In my opinion Ray wanted what Marvin had, not necessarily the MW belt, but the status as being 'the man'. Hagler had possibly eclipsed Ray in terms of status by the time they fought. Ray couldn't stand that. He saw another legend in decline and took his chance. For what it's worth I think Ray won the fight, it took a long old time to accept that as a Hagler fan. Although I have to say Hagler lost it as much as Ray won it.
after hearns. he was you dont know what youre talking about and spreading useless rumours after 30 years in LA times ran a lengthy poll just the week before the fight and the reults were nearly split evenly even I gave him a good chance after watching Hagler in sparring and observing his demeanor Hearns and many celebrities were calling it for leonard either you are more ignorant than the average man on the street or, you have an agenda either way, no one is going to believe that claim no matter how many times you repeat it
