Nobody is born on the juice, PEDs or Roids. FACT So when did certain fighters start juicing? I will get the ball rolling with a couple: Roid Jones Jr. He ain't know as roid Jones for nothing guys. It was probably the unfair loss in the Olympics final that led him to the magic sauce as soon as he turned pro. Which he didn't stop using till he got caught and the ktfo. Eric morales Started popping them pills towards the end of his career as he struggled with fitness and weight. Most of his career he probably spent beef free. Canelo After a string of unimpressive performance coupled with poor stamina . Canelo probably started juicing soon after getting whooped by fluid. He realised that to be elite, he would need that extra 5-10% and he would get that out a bottle, sorry beef... Not to mention GGG fight which was looming. Billy Joe Saunders Probably when the prospect of possible unification fight with GGG crept up over the horizon. Billy rightly realised he will get destroyed and in back of his caravan decided to get ready for the prospect by getting some extra special training in. Discuss
Morales is convicted? He’s as convicted as Floyd and the charlo brothers, both of whom was badly exposed by Thomas hausser. The cover up on these is insane, took a guy like Thomas hausser to expose what was going on. https://www.sbnation.com/longform/2015/9/9/9271811/can-boxing-trust-usada
I totally agree with you. Everyone knows Fluid and Hulkquez and Charlo sis are / were on the gear . But we have to put a line sand somewhere.
I don't think Manny avoided anything. He just didn't want to be Floyd's puppet. Not to mention he won the lawsuit in court Vs floyd and a healthy sum of $$$ to boot. ROFL
How convinient. Lol And we should also just ignore when they accused JMM of roiding only for JMM to say he'll take any test Pac takes and then heard silence about that from Pac. Or how about Roach saying Ariza was feeding Pacquiao "Special Shakes". Let's pretend none of that happened.
Let's not dig up the past too much . let's get back to the boxers that actually tested positive shall we, as per thread. Otherwise will just go around in circles .
Oh **** @IsaL ! Just realised 2 out of 4 boxer in your avatar are confirmed PED users. Canelo and morales!?!!?! The second one is a suspected PEDuez with roid gut ! Wow
Canelo willingly undergoes VADA testing, tests positive for very minimal amounts of clen. Passes all tests since on year round testing. Claims is came from tainted beef. A real possibility. Pacquiao flat out avoids random testing is the plague. Imagine any other fighter avoiding testing like that. Lol
Pac has had 5 vada testing since, not corrupt usada that never catches everyone. Everyone knows that testing wasn’t the norm back then, floyd sr accuses Pac out of nowhere and demanded he took a test, Pac didn’t want to be his puppet so he declined, at that time nobody took it. Hindsight is 50/50 but have to put that into context. At the time lots of fighters and coaches said the same thing, floyd didn’t have the right to demand ****, can’t force another man to do anything that wasn’t an official requirement. Public opinions change over time, I’m sure the same people for gay marriage now may have been heavily against it 30 years ago. Roach hates Arica but use some common sense, you don’t absorb peds via shakes ffs. That one is laughable that people actually believe it. It’s not creatine. Finally, all these are rumours, just he said she said. He was never actually caught unlike Floyd was with illegal IVs which was covered up 19 days after the fact.
Oh really. Since you know so much, How much clen was found, how far apart were those tests conducted?
There is going to be a sharp and noticeable contrast between current and future boxers as opposed to fighters from previous generations in the context of horse vs. horse.