When Fury wins the rematch

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by miniq, Jun 4, 2024.


  1. pugilista

    pugilista Member banned Full Member

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    This is one of the most deceitful things, spread particularly by the British tabloids and morons keep running with it on social media: how Usyk is this "draft dodger." In reality, Usyk was home to defend his country not even 24 hours after the war broke out. In early 2022, already in Kyiv, Usyk said that boxing was not important and he couldn't care less about belts and title fights at that moment.

    And you know what? Even if he wasn't like that, it would be okay. He is not a soldier; he is not trained as a soldier. What good would it do if he were shot running around in Kyiv instead of raising awareness of the war, getting funds with his influence, and most importantly, uplifting the morale and hopes of his nation through sporting success? How would he help his country if he was to be shot out there randomly? While all lives are equal, Usyk is a national treasure and he would be misplacing his resources and efforts if he was trying to play a foot soldier. That's basically what his fellow injured countrymen told him when he visited hospitals. They told him that the best thing he could do for his country was to fight in the ring, win matches, and become undisputed. Several sources confirmed this, all while Usyk was seen doing drills and patrolling around Kyiv.

    Long story short, it is nothing short of slanderous to claim Usyk is a coward who betrayed everything he lived for. Only the most pathetic and dishonest people claim these things, spinning narratives despite the facts. Congratulations, you just exposed yourself as a truly despicable liar. You disgust me.
     
  2. Joeywill

    Joeywill Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I think people are overreacting to the first fight. Fury can win a rematch if he just trust his chin and power more and sits down on his right hand.
     
  3. African Cobra

    African Cobra The Right Honourable Lord President of the Council Full Member

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    I have looked at Ten Hag’s record closely and noticed he wins trophies.
     
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  4. senpai

    senpai Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I don't need anyone and especially media to tell me what I know about Ukraine and the situation, that is happening there. I have been there more times, than in all the other countries combined.

    You don't even know what I am talking about. Usyk betrayed his faith, his fathers language and his traditions. These are the things, that other Ukrainian man are living for. Usyk said that he never divides people and he did just that.

    Usyk himself was in traitors list, remember ? AND after he changed his position, they removed him from that list.

    Funny.... I said I was a supporter, until he did, what he did. He is not a man anymore, since man can't betray, what he lives for.

    If you are not close to ukrainian culture, you don't understand, so don't even bother.

    Don't take it personal, it's not about you. You are nobody to him. Your words mean nothing, only true matters and the values of humans.
     
  5. pugilista

    pugilista Member banned Full Member

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    So you are a disgruntled Russian who hates on Usyk for not speaking Russian having born in Simferopol. That's the other usual BS agenda. Deal with it, the guy identifies as Ukrainian and has been for his entire life. The fact that he spoke Surzhyk in the early years of his life doesn't mean he was not fully Ukrainian in identity all along. Betraying his father and his traditions, are you serious? Him, betraying the very man he worships and deems as his hero? Usyk is a very collected and civilised man but I hope you won't accuse him with stuff like that in a situation where he can grab you because you won't like his reaction.
     
  6. Joy_Rones

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    Wlad, Vitali, Loma and Usyk are true Ukrainian patriots - they have made clear where they stand a million times already. Everything else is just calumnious Russian propaganda.

    Usyk is also a devout Orthodox Christian and a man who respects and honors his father as a true Christian should.
     
  7. like a boss

    like a boss Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Noted. Should Fury beat him, there will be a choir singing it. If Fury wins I'll be sure to direct you straight back to that post of yours.
     
  8. pugilista

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    Feel free, mate. I'm not too worried about it. Firstly, because Fury will never beat Usyk, on the contrary. He will only get beat even worse. from here. Secondly and more importantly, I really haven't even met this would-be-excuse in conversations all over the internet before. This forum here was the first time I ever heard about how Usyk fans will use these excuses.
     
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  9. Smoochie

    Smoochie Would deal with the devil for sum Greb footage Full Member

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  10. AdamT

    AdamT Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    This is True
    Although the league has beeb poor, his cup runs have been very good and he has won trophies

    He has had some really bad issues with injuries, but some of his signings have been poor

    He 100% deserves more time and I hope you are right and he brings it around. The problem witj football/soccer these days, is a manager doesn't get time

    I like your optimism brother, that's cool!
     
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  11. rorschach51

    rorschach51 A Legend & A Gentleman Full Member

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    Fury is washed, you can only **** with your body so many times and he has finally hit his limit at 37. We're never gonna see a Fury with a good enough engine to win a 12 round fight with Usyk. It is what it is, he has maybe a 6 round gas tank in him now where he can be competitive with anyone. Once that runs out his suspect chin runs out as well.
     
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  12. Salty Dog

    Salty Dog globalize the Buc-ees revolution Full Member

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    ain't how many times you fall down, it's how many times you get up
     
  13. ChiefGego

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    Don't talk to this dude he legitimately spends 12+ hours a day on this forum and the only way to justify that is that he is a legit paid shill to come spread Fury propaganda and it should be illegal for him to not be putting "#ad" in every comment
     
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  14. lordlosh

    lordlosh Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Could be that Beterbiev is a huge power puncher and has huge strength, which most of his style is based on ? And you can carry all of that even in your 50s., which is easily seeable in powerlifting competition, arm wrestling, and strength based competition as well.
    Or could be that he is bigger, and in same cases a lot bigger than his opponents? Could be that he doesn't need to give up 40+lbs advantages to his opponents ? 15-16cm. height advantage, and 19-20cm. reach advantage ?
    Notify me when he fight an world class Champion with that traits and when he is so much smaller than them, also being 19 months older than them.
    If Beterbiev main assess was his foot speed, footwork, hand speed, and was lacking power to the division he is, we could have talk.
    Even if you are blind, you could just look at the punch output, you don't go from 700+ thrown punches to 400, and also has a lot less lateral and upper body movement, and slow down your feet for no reason. :D

    But you are anti-Usyk so it doesn't even make sense trying. Keep coping though i like it.
     
  15. senpai

    senpai Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I told you already, stop stalking. Do something else, maybe help someone.

    That post was not for you, I am not interested in your fanboy ****.