When going up in weight, it seems many fighters don't lift weights...

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  1. So many myths in your post...
     
  2. Relentless

    Relentless VIP Member banned

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    alot of stupid responses, im not gonna btother argue here, if anyone is really interested come to the training section and we can talk.
     
  3. madman510

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    its more reps less weight,everybody should know this.
     
  4. JMP

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    Why's that?
     
  5. Jetmax

    Jetmax Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Enlighten me please, with so many myths in my post. Correct them all.
     
  6. MTB79

    MTB79 Active Member Full Member

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    The more reps less weight will give you sarcosplasmic rather than myfibril growth. This is useless for what you are trying to achieve as a boxer. Thats one myth.

    DE lifting would be of benefit I would imagine.
     
  7. Starched Him

    Starched Him Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Every punch is generated from the rotation of hips and legs. A strong Bicep is what seperates the strong upper cuts from the not so strong.
     
  8. JMP

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    I don't know where you get that idea. Isolating the bicep with weights isn't going to make an uppercut harder. Flexing that muscle when throwing that punch isn't ideal at all - the arm should be relaxed and loose.
     
  9. Starched Him

    Starched Him Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I know when I started Lifting weights I got Blasted by Boxers I wont fast to begin with and painfully unaccurate with placement. But I had my nose broke by some feather fist chump i thought i can walk through, My trainer through water on me and told me to wake up you just ate 16 jabs.
    16 jabs is 16 jabs weak or strong they were placed right. I lost foot movement due to the extra weight my punches were wider do to my chest growing inches. Cant say it made me hit much harder. any additional power in my Jab a gave to the forearm mass I grew
     
  10. Starched Him

    Starched Him Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    No slapping allowed, stiff punches we dig in in my gym
     
  11. nipplefloss

    nipplefloss Boxing Addict Full Member

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    As with many things there are right ways and wrong ways to lift weights for boxing. Appropriate weight training is a great benefit for any athlete. If done properly it has no negative affects on flexibility, ROM, and can increase speed and explosive strength. Gymnasts are generally much more muscle bound than your average boxer, but have tremendous flexibility and explosiveness.

    Strength training can also prevent injuries. Boxing is high impact and involves fairly violent forces working on the muscles and tendons. Tears, pulls, and recurrent injuries are often indicative of muscles or tendons that are too weak to support the forces at work on them. Strength training can build those up in a controlled, low impact manner.

    There's a great article on this here:
    http://www.rosstraining.com/articles/strengthtraining.html

    As an aside, many boxers do incorporate strength training into their workouts. They tend to focus on things like plyometric and body weight exercises, but why a pushup, say, is more beneficial than a bench press which allows full range of motion, is a mystery.

    Shane Mosley is an example of a guy who has lifted weight pretty seriously in his life, has a very muscular physique, and has no problems with explosiveness or speed. He also uses that additional physical strength very well. There's a reason he was able to easily muscle Margarito around the ring while Cotto was not.
     
  12. nipplefloss

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    He said flexing WHEN throwing the punch. Obviously you don't do that. Your arm remains relaxed impact, then you tense on (slightly before, really) impact.
     
  13. conditioner101

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    It all depends on what the desired results are, but I do believe that a period of weight training consisting of heavy weight low reps (3 to 5) is absolutely needed.
    If I were training a boxer to go up in weight i would want to have him go through a pre camp where the focus was weight training, and use the boxing as a secondary workout to maintain flexibility, and range of motion. I would stick to the basic lifts. Dumbbell bench press. Dumbbell military press. Barbell rows. Squats. Dead lift. rep range would be 8-12. Once my fighter achieved the desired gain in muscle mass I would then proceed on a workout using the same lifts, but I would change the weight/rep scheme. the focus now being heavy weight low reps. # to 5 reps being ideal. The objective being to teach the body to recruit the newly gained muscle tissue. Simply put that means an increase in strength.
    A very quick and basic example of this can be illustrated through baseball. I am sure anyone who has played baseball has gone up to bat, and warmed up with two or three bats before taking the plate. When you drop the other bats a single bat now feels lighter. What has happened is by using the extra bats you have tricked your body into recruiting more muscle tissue to execute the swing of the bat which allows for a faster more powerful swing.
     
  14. Atlanta

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    well the lower weights/more reps, but really weights aren't what a boxer should be lifting. they should be using more natural resistance than anything, so push ups, curls, leg lifts, roadwork, chin ups, and all other exercises that have the body building off itself and not external weights.
     
  15. doylexxx

    doylexxx Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    horse **** why say stuff u know nothing about ?