When good refs go bad

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  1. saul_ir34

    saul_ir34 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Im by no means an old timer but i have grown around boxing my whole life.
    I also like to watch older fights to analyse fighters.
    I just wanted to know why you had so much hatred towards him.
     
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    There were 2 seconds left. It made no sense. The first of three gifts to Chavez.
     
  4. saul_ir34

    saul_ir34 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Thats what i was expecting you guys to bring up.
    Look at Taylor now. He is pretty much mentally ******ed, just think what one more left hook would have done to him. Might have even killed him. Then we would be talking about how Steele should have stopped it.

    JCC deserved that win. If you dont think so and feel Taylor was the better man then why didnt he beat Chavez in the rematch????!!!!
    Chavez was just better.
     
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    2 seconds left after all the count.
    If it would have just been an 8 count then Chavez would have had a chance to land at least one punch. You seem to forget Chavez had it in his head that he needed the KO.
     
  6. cpnasty

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    He was better in the last round. That's it. Taylor deserved that win. A loss can destroy a young fighter and it did.
     
  7. saul_ir34

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    Good if all it takes is one loss for Taylor to be destroyed then he wasnt really all that great and definately did not deserve that win.
    Look if you wanna argue and say Taylor should have gotten the nod then fine. But a rematch did happen and he still got beat.
    If there was no rematch then i would give your argument more of a thought.
     
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    Here goes Steele again
     
  9. saul_ir34

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    Ok well i cant win them all you can have this one.
     
  10. cpnasty

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    Taylor had lost two other fights before that rematch. That rematch meant nothing. Taylor's career was already done by then. If they had an immediate rematch maybe but not after 4 years and two ass whippings later.
     
  11. saul_ir34

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    Ok so what four years later and he only fought 10 times.
    Chavez fought 20+times before the rematch took place.
    Taylor should have been in better shape than Chavez being that Chavez fought twice as much in the same time frame.
    Chavez also lost his first fight before the rematch to Randall and what did he do he came right back to beat him and then took on Taylor.

    I hate when people point at the first fight and say Taylor was robbed.
    Alot of fighters get robbed but the great ones always come back to the top.
     
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    everyone has bad days
     
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    if a fighters thought of as dirty they tend to be more strict even if there not doing it in that fight
     
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    Chacez ended Taylor's career in the first fight, he did, by far, the more damage, broken bones in Taylor's face, Taylor lost a dangerous amount of blood, one more punch and he could have been dead. Chavez beat the crap out of him, it was no contest as far as the damage. Chavez' punches did severe damage, Taylor's did nothing. Chavez finished him off in the rematch.
     
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    Both guys were past it by 1994 (Chavez was arguably a tad past it in their first fight in 1990). But Taylor had fallen even farther in those 4 and a half years thanks to the beatings he received in the ring and probably in sparring. I find it hard to picture Taylor not being involved in a good number of those Philly gym wars.

    It was also a bad management decision I feel to have Taylor go to jr. middle and fight Terry Norris.

    Although he Chavez fight didn't alone ruin Taylor, it was the main fight that did it (similar to Trinidad-Vargas).

    Saying Chavez beat Randall in the rematch however, is quite a stretch.

    That **** was gift-wrapped to him.