When Haye beats Chisora is it fair to say that Haye then becomes a top 25 ATG HW?

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  1. Michael300

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    I'd be genuinely interested to see who you had above Haye, and who you had 26th through to 30th............:think
     
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  2. supremo

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    He is a celebrity heavyweight. 25th ATG my ****ing arse!!!! what on earth on his HW resume could make you even put him in the top 100?
     
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  3. Duffy

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  6. Clydebank Blitz

    Clydebank Blitz Don't Be Scared Homie Full Member

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    To be fair, David Haye is competing in a heavyweight decision that could see Mike Tyson have little success. I don't see many smaller fighters taking on the Klitschkos.

    With that being said, the Valuev win is completley overrated. Valuev sucks, simple as. Just because he's big doesn't make it any greater a win. These guys are the same weight class. If you can't beat the guys in your own weight class, then it's not the weight class for you. Besides that, Audley Harrison, John Ruiz...who has David Haye actually beat at HW? Even wins over guys like Tyson Fury, Eddie Chalmbers, Chris Arreola would have been achievements enough to put Haye's name up in the mix, but he's beat next to nobody, so why would he be put that high (basing this off his HW wins alone). The first big fight he had...he lost.

    Amazing cruiserweight, decent heavyweight.
     
    Clydebank Blitz, May 28, 2012
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  7. kosaros

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    Wow.
     
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  8. Geddy Lee

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    i agree and Bowe is not in top 25 ATG , just for being **** scared of Lennox
     
    Geddy Lee, May 28, 2012
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  9. Scotty321

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    This:deal
     
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  10. Geddy Lee

    Geddy Lee Well-Known Member Full Member

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    who is this guy????
     
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  11. Geddy Lee

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    i come on here and talk shite usually and get slagged off, you doing a good job of doing better
     
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  12. trotter

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    If you are lucky this falls off the front page quickly

    If you are unlucky you will get torn a new hole
     
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  13. Muzza

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    Either this is a wind up thread to get a reaction or Duffy has lost his marbles. A bloke whose had 5 fights at heavyweight becomes a top 25 ALL TIME great if he beats a guy with a 15-3 record? :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :patsch
     
    Muzza, May 29, 2012
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  14. Duffy

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    Last night was an ATG performance from Haye. When David is in that kind of form he can't be beat. What people need to start realizing is that David matches up spectacularly against the vast majority of the ATG's.

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x9l_RrjjTMc[/ame]


    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XAO-SSRuQaM&feature=fvst[/ame]

    The above clips are similar to what we witnessed last night. People have to understand that when you're seeing Foreman easily destroy Frazier that Haye matches up against Joe even better than Foreman. David has all of Foreman's attributes plus much much more.

    Haye is stronger and more powerful than Foreman who for his time was seen as a giant. Haye has everything he has plus World class head movement, World class agility, World class ring IQ, (see the Valuev fight and Forman vs Ali) World class movement, World class defence etc...

    If Haye was to face up against the ATG top 20 heavyweights then Hayemaker beats the majority of them. Jack Johnson for instance would get seriously ****ed up against Hayemaker. Have a look below.

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=74dnCeXI8MM[/ame]

    Haye would ruin this man with such ease that it wouldn't even be funny.


    Haye now is a clear top 25 ATG hw. Look how Vitali Klitschko struggled with Chisora and only beat him by the skin of his teeth. In contrast look at what Hayemaker did to him, stunning.
     
    Duffy, Jul 15, 2012
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  15. Geddy Lee

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    haye or bowe should not be used with the words ATG
     
    Geddy Lee, Jul 15, 2012
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