When, if ever has Pacquiao beaten a top fighter in their prime convincingly?

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  1. sprika2

    sprika2 Active Member Full Member

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    who??????
     
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  2. Beenie

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    Considering your history of threads and posts, I'd say this rebuttal is certainly pertinent to this thread. It's obvious that that your motive is to somehow discredit and or under mind the accomplishments of an undeniably great fighter and p4p best by most knowledgeable observers. You also are very loud with your support with an up and coming potential great fighter in Valero. I just find it interesting how the fighter that you so adamantly adore is suspiciously omitted for that same criticism that you continuously shower down on Pacquiao when both guys are seemingly cut from the same cloth. Both bring an exciting style into the ring with speed and power, both are south paws, and both are proud supporters of their countries. I make no secret that I'm a big Pacquiao fan but I also very much enjoy watching Valero and always carry much anticipation for all of his fights. It just doesn't make sense to me how you have so much love for one fighter and express sentiments that sound much like contempt for the other when both are so similar.
     
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  3. Jeff M

    Jeff M Future ESB HOF Full Member

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    Who should have won the fight? You saying Sanchez was robbed? Sanchez was knocked out by feather fisted Guzman after Pac edged him out. Sanchez also lost 2 points otherwise would have been a draw but as I said he got stopped by Guzman in his next fight.
     
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  4. hmm

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  5. Beenie

    Beenie Evolve already! Full Member

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    Precisely.
     
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  6. icyhush

    icyhush What's on your mind? Full Member

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    it should be.... hmm does :clap:
     
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  7. Jeff M

    Jeff M Future ESB HOF Full Member

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    So you hold Yuri in high enough regard to consider Sasakul a top fighter after going 1-1 against him, which means Pac beat a top fighter in Sasakul?:think
     
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  8. Farmboxer

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    Pac lost to Marquez.
     
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  9. scatterbrain

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    :good:good:good
     
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  10. Jeff M

    Jeff M Future ESB HOF Full Member

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    That's long winded for me to just have to tell you it has nothing to do with the original question.
     
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  11. Jeff M

    Jeff M Future ESB HOF Full Member

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    How are they cut from the same cloth and how are they similar? So it's Valero's fault he lost his license and is just starting to move towards the big fights? Only in your imagination do I hold contempt for Pacquiao. Again, no of this has anything to do with the question and there are always some like you who have to go off topic.
     
    Jeff M, Apr 16, 2009
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  12. Williams27

    Williams27 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Morales was by no means shot. Pacman is a very good fighter, still has some to prove but he is a winner.
     
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  13. Jeff M

    Jeff M Future ESB HOF Full Member

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    Morales was still past prime so he does not meet the criteria.
     
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  14. Beenie

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    If you don't like Pac, why or better yet how is it that you like Valero so much??? I could understand why JMM fans might not like Pac because they are rivals and also they might not prefer Pac's unorthodox style as oppose to JMM's technical style. Valero in many ways fights like a younger Pac and really doesn't have much of a rivalry with him so I ask again why or better yet how is it that you like Valero so much if you don't like Pac? :huh
     
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  15. Jeff M

    Jeff M Future ESB HOF Full Member

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    Valero's first 25 fights: 25(25)-0 two legitimate titles

    Pacquiao's first 25 fights: 24(15)-1(ko) one legitimate title
     
    Jeff M, Apr 16, 2009
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