When injuries during the fight genuinely cost a fighter the Victory?

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  1. MorvidusStyle

    MorvidusStyle Boxing Addict Full Member

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    According to many forum experts, if you get in the ring you are fighting fit and injuries are never an excuse, since even if you get injured it was because of what the opponent was making you do. Stop making excuses. The better man always wins.

    That's why to this day Glazkov gives Charles Martin credit for snapping his knee ligament. It was the fear of Martin's power that made Glazkov move around and snap his own leg. Thus Martin became world champion in an unconventional way, but was no less deserving.
     
  2. Brighton bomber

    Brighton bomber Loyal Member Full Member

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    I'd say in many cases where injuries were caused by the opponent don't really count, you get punched hard enough to injure you then it's not a case of bad luck but a case of not being good enough to avoid getting damaged by your opponents punches.

    Also some of the cases like Martin/Glazkov there's no guarantee Glazkov would have won even if he didn't injure his leg. Martin was doing well enough in that fight to think he may have won the title even if Glazkov wasn't injured.

    But Dean Francis dislocating his shoulder vs Undra White was totally a case of bad luck. He was easily winning the fight and it wasn't even a case of White making Francis miss a punch and pull his shoulder out, Francis threw an innocuous right hook that connected on White's guard and suddenly his shoulder popped out. Francis would have definitely won that fight if not for that injury.
     
  3. ikrasevic

    ikrasevic Who is ready to suffer for Christ (the truth)? Full Member

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    Deontay Wilder broke his hand in the Bermane Stiverne 1 fight, when he won the title. That's why Stiverne saw the end of the fight on his feet.
    And the rematch proved that it was so.
    P.S. I'm sorry that it didn't cost Wilder the victory, I think it should be mentioned.
     
  4. Reg

    Reg Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Stiverne from the second fight was a shell of himself as a champion.
     
  5. MidniteProwler

    MidniteProwler Fab 4. Mayor of Aussie Boxing Full Member

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    David Haye was beating Tony Bellew before his achilles gave out
     
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  6. Brighton bomber

    Brighton bomber Loyal Member Full Member

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    Even in the first fight he was a shell of himself. He basically gave up on boxing after he won the title vs Arreola. Never that committed to training in the first place, he like Bowe or Douglas before him, put even less effort in the gym once he won a title. He came into the camp for the first Wilder fight massively overweight, had to work so hard to himself down to his normal weight he gave himself rhabdomyolysis and spent 2 days in the hospital after the fight.
     
  7. The Long Count

    The Long Count Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    In Deontay Wilder’s second fight against Fury he tired his legs badly with a Halloween themed entrance costume he used when coming to the ring.
     
  8. NoChin

    NoChin Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Not to mention that massive, heavy mask/helmet.
     
  9. The Long Count

    The Long Count Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    good point. That with the costume definitely serious injury right there
     
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  10. drenlou

    drenlou VIP Member

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    Flanagan-Zepeda. There was not a shadow of doubt in my mind that Zepeda wouldnt have pieced up Turbo.
     
  11. Arch Stanton

    Arch Stanton When you have to shoot, shoot!, don't talk...... Full Member

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    And opposite to the thread title. When a fighter suffers a serious injury and digs deep and actually manages to pull it off.

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    Massive Kudos to Danny there.

    Taking a knee or quitting just wasn't in his repertoire....
     
  12. The Real Lance

    The Real Lance Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Nice!
    Arthur Abraham beating Edison Miranda w/ a broken jaw!! Man that was difficult to watch!
     
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  13. cslb

    cslb Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    According to Pac fans, his “shoulder injury “ in the Mayweather fight cost him the fight. I am not certain whether it was a preexisting injury or the injury was caused during the fight. I’ve heard both excuses so it is kind of murky.
     
  14. Arch Stanton

    Arch Stanton When you have to shoot, shoot!, don't talk...... Full Member

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    Another great example of ' no quit'
     
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  15. ellerbe

    ellerbe Loyal Member Full Member

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    Stop it reg