When its all said and done Oscar de La Hoya will rank higher than Floyd Mayweather Jr

Because the Sturm, Quartey, and Whitaker fights cancel them out.

 

Bull**** comment.
Whitaker and Quartey was won by Oscar, and well...we can all unanimously say they were even fights. Mayweather never took on a beast like Quartey at welterweight.

Sturm, ****ing hell...read my posts in this thread.

 

I don't give a ****. Oscar lost his share of close fights and got the nod in others. He could have 4 losses or NINE mother****ing losses.

Six is a good compromise.

 

I wouldn't have a problem with that at all,he actually took risks enough said.

 

The most biased **** I've read on this thread. It's not even about Oscar anymore, it's about you trying to be internet victor, and the clasping of intellectual straws is very apparent man, just pack it in.

'Whitaker was shot compared to what he was' lol what the ****. I don't know if you watched the fight or not, I've watched it 5 times. Whitaker was hardly anything different to when he was fighting the likes of Buddy McGirt. Whitaker said he lacked motivation for the few fights before the Oscar fight, and with his coked brain that needs constant stimulation, I can understand why, and so the Oscar fight brought the Great out of Whitaker.

There's even people on this thread trying to make out that a win against a 2010 Mosley, a huge 16 months after his win against Margarito, gassed out after a few rounds and old as ****, is a better win than a 2003 Shane Mosley roided to the eyeballs. This is seriously weird.

People continue to dodge the fact that in 2007, Oscar was 3/4 years removed from prime.

'Corrales
Castillo
Cotto
Hatton
Genaro
Marquez
Mosley

All have cases for being better wins for Mayweather than over Oscar. Top 5 and maybe 6 are, in my opinion.'

such bull****.


W WHITAKER - slightly past prime but if you've seen the fight and compared it to Whitaker's performance output in his earlier welter days, there's very little difference, top 20 ATG, top 5 most skilled fighter of all time...to be evenly matched and in the eyes of the slight majority, Oscar the victor in the fight..Whitaker being slightly past prime really doesn't take away the glory of a win that Mayweather has not come anywhere near to.
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W Trinidad, a fierce undefeated ATG
...THESE TWO WINS alone is greater than having a win over Corrales, Castillo, Hatton AND Genaro put together on your resume.

You're talking 2 A+ fighters vs 4 A-B+ fighters.

I used to rank Mayweather above Oscar, but now I think I'm seeing things a little different.

People give Oscar stick for losing against Hopkins and Sturm..they were ****ing middleweights! Yet Floyd is too ***** to fight Canelo at 154, Oscar looked like a fat little **** against Hopkins and Sturm. 'Like I said before', I wouldn't rate Floyd lower if he lost to someone like Julio Cesar Vasquez at 156lbs. (Whereby Floyd MOVES UP to 156) He's just too small and deserves credit for taking the fight anyway.

 

No doubt...

ODLH had a pair of cojones he fought ****ing Hopkins @ MIDDLE weight...

May can't even fight a lil midget at 147 who he was favored in, he cant even fight a 22 year old kid who hold a couple more pound more then ortiz, most pick May to beat canelo with skills pay the bills and size is irrelivant, but dude is to chicken **** to try it.

Dude is a ***** ducker and cherry picker...


ODLH...............................................> Scaredweather

 

That's horrible logic.

Beating two great fighters in their prime in universally accepted robberies is much better than losing close decisions in controversial fights against those 3. They don't carry the same weight. They don't balance out.

Besides, I have Oscar winning all of those fights. Close, but I have him winning.

 

You JUST SO HAPPEN to have Oscar winning those fights. You're definitely not biased.

 

You can see it coming too.

 

Oscar's not really a favorite of mine. Well, maybe towards the bottom of the top ten, but as a fighter, I don't favor him that much more than I do Floyd. I just simply score them that way. Everyone rants on and on about how they're clear robberies, but sitting down to score them, he out-landed Sturm, especially with his shots in the body, and saved himself with the 12 round KD of Quartey. I haven't scored the Whitaker fight in a while, but making DLH miss alone a bunch wasn't enough to steal 7 rounds.

 

What do you base this off of?

Both are champions in 5 weight classes, DLH being 9x champion/3x Ring/Lineal champion and Floyd being 8x champion/4x Ring/Lineal champion.

Floyd has 5 fights left, he can add more titles to his resume, and more top wins. As it stands now, Floyd is already seen as greater.

 

I had Oscar winning the Strum and Whitaker fights.

However, he admits in his own damn book that he lost to Strum. He was filled with guilt to the point where he cried over receiving the gift, and his wife had to baby him

 

What you don't understand is that Mayweather is not a jawbreaker, he is a heartbreaker. It's a different kind of feeling to watch a fighters heart breaking down round by round. They know they are losing and there is nothing they can do about it. Some of them probably wish they could just get knocked the **** out. Mayweather puts down a cold demonstration.:bbb

 

Damn, if I ever won a close decision I would never ever EVER admit that I lose if I think I did. that's a sign of mental weakness.

 

A past-prime Whitaker did beat Dela Hoya, but he was the new Golden Boy so bias was definitely in favor of Oscar.