When Joe beats Roy, how much credit will you give him?

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  1. VIP

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    Very little to None. At least with Hopkin, people still rate him highly and I think it was justly deserved given how the fight went down. Roy Jones is seen as more past it than Hopkins even though he's a few years younger.
     
  2. fitzgeraldz

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    At this point in time I don't think its about the money for RJJ ... he has alot of money and has achieved a ton in the sport ... I feel that Jones is securing his legacy by beating an undefeated, long reigning champion. Jones is well known to all boxing fans around the world ... he wouldn't take this fight, in Whales for that matter, if he didn't think that he could beat Joe.

    I think Judges and Refs aren't going to come into play because Roy has so much respect -- and neither of the two fighters are at all dirty.
     
  3. fitzgeraldz

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    oh and I don't think that Calzaghe is going to beat Jones either ... I like Calzaghe and respect him alot ... I was talking so much **** before, but only to ruffle the feathers of Calzaghe die hards. It really doesn't matter who he fought ... after 10 years of competitors and over 20 defenses - thats a very hard acheivement and to think that no one came close to bumping him off especially with his aggressive style is just amazing by itself.

    Jones is still fast and over all a better technical boxer that Joe is ... I see the fight going the distance but wouldn't be suprised to see a couple of knockdowns.
     
  4. Imperial1

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    I will give Joe all the credit in the world !!! Jones is still a viable name and a good fight ..Anyone who discredits this win is a knit picker ..I hear Dawson is a more viable challenge, imagine if Johnson would have beat him ? Dawson would have been called a hype job etc ..Then fighting him would of meant nothing ..Even at this stage Jones will give CALZAGHE a fight ..
     
  5. fitzgeraldz

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    Yeah if Joe wins ... then all praise to him ...
    he's already considered the greatest SMW of all-time and has a win over the best MW of the last 20 yrs ... so I think he's well respected as of now.

    To be honest I never seen anything like him ever ... he has discipline issues but when he's on the top of his game (unlike Saturday) then he's a tough, very tough opponent.
     
  6. RafaelGonzal

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    none what so ever, if he does not fight Dawson at 175 or Pavlik at 168 he should retire.
     
  7. kirk

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    I have a question though, in this fight... why would i give joe credit? this is a horrible matchup to make, and roy jones has NOTHING at this point.... roy couldnt beat one relevant fighter at 175 IMO... so of course im not going to give joe credit for that win. Thats the easiest fight he can take imo.
     
  8. LeadLeftHook

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    I will not give Joe any credit for beating a shot Roy Jones, just like I dont give him any credit for beating a man who is almost 45 yrs old.

    I will give Joe Calzaghe credit if he ever dares fight and beats Kelly Pavlik, who is a legit threat
     
  9. kirk

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    All the credit in the world?


    I think your are completely overating what a jones victory means at this stage of the game.

    Dawson, Tarver, and Johnson are three names that hold more weight then Roy jones right now.

    Jones WILL NOT give JC a fight.... im not sure why you think that, in fact id be suprised if jones wins even 3 rounds.
     
  10. kirk

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    how can you not give him credit for beating the Ring champion at 175??? :huh He just beat THE CHAMP at that division...
     
  11. Muskyrat

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    if he beats jones theyll say he should fight pavlik, then dawson then tarver
    it'll never change.
    he should fight jones for the cash then retire undefeated.
    his reps his own fault partially for sticking with warren for so long
     
  12. lillarry

    lillarry Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Thats nothing to be proud of
     
  13. jaycuban

    jaycuban Cubans Do It Better ! Full Member

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    if he does fight and beat Roy jones, he beat the Roy Jones way past his prime, the roy jones who at that weight class lost twice to Tarver who got wooped by Hokins, the roy jones who lost to Glen Johnson. id say he will the credit he deserves... wich wont be much.
     
  14. LeadLeftHook

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    Hopkins is fighting once a year. Hes in a semi-retired mode, already retired once. I actually expected an easy night for Joe C. But he struggled against an old Hopkins. Dont tell me age is not a factor, in sports like boxing its very big factor if you're 43.
    Its a good win but not what its being made out to be by Calzageh fans
     
  15. Imperial1

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    Yeha but Jones beat Hopkins before any of the guys ever even thought of fighting Hopkins so we can go rd and rd all day ..Joe will get credit of he beats Jones convincingly !