When Mayweather retires, he will be grouped with Ottke and Calzaghe, NOT SRL, Ali etc

How's Floyd ducked Martinez and Khan, and Pacquiao hasn't?
atsch

 

Sad thing is, I remember the exact same articles about Roy Jones in about 2003.

They were so similar in style, hate, pettyness.

I just have a feeling, fans need a cocky, black, seemingly unbeatable champ to all club against.

I remember people saying Roy Jones ducked, as he didn't fight Joe Calzaghe.............Now it seems it's gone full circle. Calzaghes the ducker!?

An example of why fans rarely get a forum to share their opinions other than blogs. They have no idea what they are talkinig about.


Look at Roy. He cleared out the 175 division, in about 10 fights, in devestating fashion - I remember guys going "but who's he fought!?"

I think Roy fought something like 28 past/future/former world champions in his career. More than Manny and Floyd managed, combined.

 

If he beats Manny it will be different. He doesnt have to fight Martinez I love how everyone thinks he has to fight him.atschIf he beats Manny then he beat the best fighter of this era and thus would make him the best fighter of this era since he is considered the #2 or even #1 by some so beating the #1/#2 would make him no doubt #1.

Beating Martinez would be an added bonus that would but him even that much further over the level of greatness. Also if Canelo were to beat the winner of Cotto vs Margarito or another top 154lber that would also be a big winand if Canelo goes on to be a great fighter then that would also enhance Floyd's legacy.

 

jesus man.. how far are you up in floyd's ass? everytime i see your post, floyd is this floyd is that.. **** man, get out of that cave and breath fresh air.

 

Floyd can change everyones thoughts about him with fighting Pacquiao but also everyone knows his resume couldve been way better then it is. Winning all the belts at 130 by beating Fretias and Casamayor wouldve been huge wins. Also beating Stevie Johnston after fight Castillo wouldve been huge also unifying against Spadafora or Dorin. Obviously instead of wasting time with Corely(good win tho) and Bruseless he shouldve been fighting Tsyzu and Harris and couldve took out Gatti after he unified and made that fight even bigger then it was. And then defend against Hatton before moving to 147 and shouldve fought Margarito and Cotto or at least the winner of there fight instead of retiring. And now he should be fighting Pacquiao he's not fighting bums but hes not fighting the guy everyone considers the man or the 1a/1b fighter in the division.

Imagaine that resume.... G. Hernandez, Corrales(undefeated), Manfredy, Fretias(undefeated), Casamayor(undefeated), C. Hernandez, Chavez, Castillo2x, Johnston, Spadafora(undefeated), Dorin(undefeated), Ndou, Tsyzu, Harris, Gatti, Hatton(undefeated), Judah, Baldomir, De La Hoya, Cotto(undefeated), Margarito, Marquez, Mosely, Ortiz and Pacquiao..... if he retired with that resume and his "0" he'd definitely he considered top 15 p4p all time and thats not thinking about the chance of him beat Martinez to become the undisputed Middleweight champion and maybe beating one of the young guys like Chavez Jr or Canelo and if they go on to become something great he'd be top 10 without a doubt prob top 5.

And the sad part is juts like RJJ he couldve easily beaten most of those guys and probably beats them all maybe some guying him a hard time like Casamayor or Johnston also Fretias' speed and power and awkward style could have gave him some issue people might think Spadafora because of there sparring session but Floyd could easily outbox Spaddy and if he thought he couldnt hed change up and pressure him like like Dorin did and would easily outland him and still not get hit. But however you look at it Floyd should win all the fights listed above in a fastasy match up (not including Pacquiao, Martinez, Canelo or Chavez Jr).

Oh boy, what couldve been.:verysad

 

Now that is some real **** you said right there...

 

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With Calzaghe not Ottke.

 

The truth is Sergio isn't ****, all it takes is one more loss by anyone and he will be irrelevant, he hasn't beaten anyone, there's no one on Sergio resume who will be a HOFer, he doesn't even have anyone on his resume who stands as an elite fighter at this point, basically he's overrated, good fighter but he is...

Margarito will always be remembered as a cheater and will not be remembered as a great fighter, definitely won't be a HOFer, saying Floyd needs Margarito to better his legacy is like saying Floyd needs Mayorga to make his resume better, its bull-****...

As for Cotto as any true fan with knowledge knows, Floyd once called out Cotto to no avail, Arum didn't want the fight, Cotto has never mentioned Floyds name so, that fight never materialized, the fight can still be made but everyone knows Floyd will get no credit when he spanks todays Cotto...

Now the Pacquiao fight for Mayweather is a good fight but as everyone knows as long as Pac doesn't agree to full random testing there will be no fight, to me its obvious Arum is preventing Pac from taking the test, he hates Floyd and he has a good thing going ****ing Pac out of money so he's not ready to cash out right now...

I sure Manny at this point would just take the test if it were up to him, but his passive personality restricts him from speaking up for himself, he's basically a puppet..Pac vs Floyd would be a good win for either fighter, but it won't make or break them...

You say Floyd ducked Cotto and Margo, well I can easily say Pac is ducking Ortiz and Berto and Sergio, Khan etc. etc...but i don't feel that way because its bull****...

When Mayweather retires for me he will be right there beside SRL, above Hearns, Hagler and other old school greats, everyone has this measuring stick that says that older era fighters are somehow automatically better than todays fighters, nope not me...

Ali is considered great and he should be but he has some bad losses on his resume, as Hagler and Hearns, SRL...its like when you lose to another fighter who's considered great it makes these certain fighters resume better because although they lost they lost to a good fighter so its good **** that..

Floyd when he is done especially if he manages to retire undefeated in my book will be a top ten ATG maybe even top five...

 

ATG? Probably

Does he belong anywhere near the GOAT debates? Don't make me laugh.
He's an ATG because he totally dominated all the B+ fighters he faced, and beat the A level guys he faced at 135 and below.

He'll never be in the GOAT debates because he refused to fight any A-level fighters for the last 10 years of his career.