When pac entered the ww division with his victory over hoya...

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  1. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    Yeah I view margo as a fight just above the ww limit even tho pac was still a ww. Says more about his legacy at ww than his legacy at lmw.

    Yeah defending against lww's isn't too bad atm because ww is dry apart from ortiz. If floyd does fight ortiz then pac needs to take on the winner.
     
    lufcrazy, May 30, 2011
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  2. cesare-borgia

    cesare-borgia Übermensch in fieri Full Member

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    yes ortiz wanted 143 and berto couldnt make it so they agreed on 145.
    It definitely helped ortiz more then it did pac vs cotto, also martinez beat williams at a 157 catchweight yet pac is the only one to get hated on because of a few pounds in one sided beat downs.
     
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  3. PH|LLA

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    honestly I did not hear a peep about this catchweight between Berto and Ortiz. Had I known, I might not have waged so much :think

    that was a close fight too
     
    PH|LLA, May 30, 2011
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  4. cesare-borgia

    cesare-borgia Übermensch in fieri Full Member

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  5. pahapoisu

    pahapoisu Superman! Full Member

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    Why did Ortiz come in at 146 ? :huh
    Also, it was Williams who wanted 157 catchweight but Martinez agreed to 158.
     
    pahapoisu, May 30, 2011
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  6. cesare-borgia

    cesare-borgia Übermensch in fieri Full Member

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    it was 145+1 or something, point is that catchweight happen in more fights then pacs but nobody cares about it.
     
    cesare-borgia, May 30, 2011
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  7. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    Catchweight fights have happened throughout history. When they are made as title fights it's a bit bs but most title fights are bs these days.
     
    lufcrazy, May 30, 2011
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  8. Duck Dodgers

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    Ortiz is significantly bigger than Berto. The catchweight request was idiotic.
     
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  9. Duck Dodgers

    Duck Dodgers Kimbo #1 P4P Full Member

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    Cherry-picker. :-:)-(
     
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  10. pahapoisu

    pahapoisu Superman! Full Member

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    Cotto and Clottey are good wins. Clottey refused to go all out but thats because Pacquiao was too good.
    Pacquiao failed to beat the top dog in the division so he cant be called the welterweight champion.
     
    pahapoisu, May 30, 2011
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  11. cesare-borgia

    cesare-borgia Übermensch in fieri Full Member

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    thats why after marquez he should fight ortiz:p
     
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  12. Bladegunner

    Bladegunner Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I never knew pac beat margo at WW :patsch
     
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  13. Bladegunner

    Bladegunner Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    When he fought each of them fighters and the times he did, yes it was a cherry pick.
     
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  14. Duck Dodgers

    Duck Dodgers Kimbo #1 P4P Full Member

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    Pacquiao is the top dog in the division. Unfortunately for Pacquiao, some douchebag pretended to occupy the #2 slot and then refused to fight him - or fight anybody, for that matter - preventing Pac from establishing a new lineage.
     
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  15. saul_ir34

    saul_ir34 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I dont remember it like that. I remember Ortiz was trying to get a catch weight of 145 going but it didnt come through so the 147 was then settled on. I actually remember reading an article on it quoting Ortiz saying it would only make him stronger.
     
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