When Pacquiao became great

He became a great fighter after losing to Morales the first time. Before that, he was a very good fighter with insane speed and power.

 

he is a good fighter definitely hall of fame but he is no ATG that includes morales, barrera, and marquez nothing ATG about those four..they are just hyped up

 

When he turned heads....
Barrera

When he became a supposed great....
Oscar fight

Now he is Lance Armstrong just waiting to admit he took PED's.

 

He was always great,Americans only took noticed when he destroyed PRIME Barrera,and he is still the best fighter in the world,no one can legally defeat him

 

You forgot "IMO". A great majority of boxing experts disagree with you on that, as you saw.

 

I knew when he lost to Morales that he would be great.

 

Bradley-Pacquiao was not a robbey, no one had a reason for cheating for Bradley, Arum could make money with Pacquiao, there is no money in Bradley. Look at Marquez Pacquiao 3, I watched it with a group of people who wanted Pacquiao to win by the end of the night they was like Marquez beat him bad, but Lederman had the fight 8-4 for Pacquiao and the judges gave Pacquiao the fight. Boxing is a subjective sport I disagree with Lederman on 3 rounds but I don't question if he was told to say Pacquiao won, Pacquiao fans need to learn how to deal with a loss.

 

http://boxrec.com/media/index.php/Manny_Pacquiao_vs._Timothy_Bradley

http://boxrec.com/media/index.php/Manny_Pacquiao_vs._Juan_Manuel_Marquez_(3rd_meeting)

 

I think the Cotto win put him into legendary status. That was an incredible performance. I suppose the initial performance that led him on to the path of being great was the Barrera win.

 

He became a great fighter following his accomplishments at 130/135. He raised eyebrows with his wins over DLH/Hatton/Cotto. That was his prime. Personally, I never ranked Manny #1 PFP as I always believed Floyd would defeat him. He was in the Top 10, no doubt, but the whole avoidance of taking OSDT hindered his ranking for me (and always will).

After the Cotto win he slowly began regressing. He didn't impress versus Clottey or Margs. And he flat out lost to to JMM3. He looked decent against Bradley. He got KTFO against a slow, 40 year old fighter.

Manny Pacquiao is a great fighter and a terror at 130/135, but 147 isn't an ideal weight for him (even with the PED's). He peaked around #3 PFP for me, following his win over Cotto. He's no longer a PFP fighter for me at this point, obviously. He's among the Top 100 ATG fighters mainly due to his achievements at 130-135, but he's somewhere around 91-100 for me.

 

When he dominated the already -great Maro Antonio Barrera.

Good thread.

 

:deal

 

Agree with this. I give him some credit for the Clottey fight though

 

Thanks for bumping that post. The guy refuses to give Pac credit for anything. No wonder he saw Bradley "on fair scorecards a scrape-by".

 

He's correct about the Bradley fight. Bradley did well for a tuneup manny was supposed to walk all over and then knockout. Not only did he manage to win four rounds, three of those rounds were the championship rounds.

Bradley wins if they rematch.