When Pacquiao became great

8-4 is hardly scraping by. But take a second to process this:

There were more 11-1 for Pac on the press row cards, than 7-5 + draw + Bradley win combined.

This is as comprehensive poll as there is. It is not anonymous. You can see the average score was 117-111.

 

It wasn't just Tim winning rounds. It's the rounds that he won. If all all else is equal, finishing hard is better than starting fast.

 

sometimes, unless the other guy's coasting. It wasn't exactly a Jones Brook kinda comeback

 

Yes, far from a Jones Brook comeback. I believe Brook won the 11th or 12th, so the shitty conditioning line can be used in his case.

Seeing manny lose rounds 10 through 12 consecutively suggests Tim found something that work, applied it, and figured manny out.

Unfortunately, it took Tim too long to figure manny out.

 

This sounds silly now, after 4 years, but Pacquiao upgraded his level after the fight against De la Hoya.

A prior, everyone said he was going to lose. He was a Hall of Famer and a contender for All Time Greatness. After destroying DLH, he became a P4P star and started the campaign that ended against Timothy Bradley.

Of course, when you look backwards you know it was a shot DLH.

 

Jeff Mayweather scored Bradley/Pac 118-110 for Pacquiao.

 

You are ****ing stupid. So a career featherweight moving up to WW and dominating just about all the top fighters there in recent years, is a dog and pony show?

Your clearly just a hater.

 

I think group think came into affect, cause people had the fight the fight 11-1 but like Kellerman said after he watched the fight with no commentary he could understand 7-5, that's the same score I had for Marquez in the third fight,so like I said I don't claim Marquez won because boxing is subjective. It's the most subjective sport in the world even more so than say gymnastics so we must live with the results.

 

^ He was slowing down as soon as the Margarito fight, and it was a steady decline from there. Part of it was physical, part of it mental. He became a part time fighter mentally. He looked asleep vs. Juan in the 3rd fight, and he took it easy in the Bradley fight. It juts shows he doesn't have that killer mentality anymore. He used to fight every second of every round. I just watched the Cotto fight again recently, and the difference is ridiculous. He was a non-stop buzz saw back then, he's only a shadow of that now.

 

That'd be an amazing phenomenon if it was group think between 120 independent agents, all experienced observers. Someone should study it, I don't know of a precedent.

You're right it's a subjective sport, but often it's crystal clear. The telltale sign is usually overwhelming margins on expert scorecards

 

:rofl

 

???

You wouldn't get that impression from reading your posts prior to the fight.

 

Barrera was nowhere in his prime when he faced JMM. Prime Barrera would be him against Morales the first time. That war took alot from the two of them.

 

Barrera was his break through but after DLH/Hatton was his peak.