When Rocky Marciano...

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  1. Marciano Frazier

    Marciano Frazier Well-Known Member Full Member

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    That wasn't the question.
     
  2. Marciano Frazier

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    43 in a 78-fight career, as compared with Marciano's 43 in 49. And about two of them were heavyweights for Toney.
    Toney had better boxing technique, but Marciano was the better fighter.
     
  3. Club Fighter

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    Many of Rocky's biggest wins came over guys suffering from geriatric-related deficiencies. Way-to-go, Rock. You're a great champ with your whole 6 title defenses. Larry Holmes KO8 Marciano.
     
  4. Bummy Davis

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    Tyson was a good front runner but when challenged with a real heart in front of him, he folded, Evander struggled to stop Bobby Cyz who was KO'd in 2 by Corrie Sanders but he stood up to Mike and Mike quit, same with Williams,Lewis,McBride and Holyfield 2(bully bite)...Marciano would have showed him heart and toughness that he never saw. Yes I RATE Marciano over Tyson
     
  5. Bummy Davis

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    Walcott primed late but was still better than all of Holmes opponents, and how would you compare him next to Henry Cooper,Doug Jones,Karl Mildenburger, Do you think Charles,Moore,Walcott,Lastarza or some of the men they beat(Valdes,Satterfield,Baker could beat most of Ali's opponnets
     
  6. KTFO

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    Doesn't matter if you KO them with class or with raw power. Thing is that Toney did it.
     
  7. KTFO

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    Marciano was half the fighter Tyson was. Regarding speed,power,aggressiveness, etc.
     
  8. joe33

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    Bull he was,the guy never proved it for long enough though did he,he may well have gone on to be the best fighter ever,but come on now douglas for ****s sake knocked him into next week,and he was a nothing fighter.
    Still so many haters for the rock,i guess for some people,even the thought that a white smallish awkward guy,who was a decent man still holds the all time heavyweight record must kill them,still get ****ing used to it LOL,hes never gonna be knocked off the perch,theres not a guy out there who is ever gonna get near the rocks record.:happy :happy
     
  9. SevenSamurai

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  10. SevenSamurai

    SevenSamurai 3 year ESB vet. Full Member

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    How you can think that a fighter who has been stopped by the likes of John Ruiz and Oleg Maskaev would be able to beat an unbeaten heavweight champion of the world is beyond reasoning.

    I assume you are the usual Holyfield fanboy who frequents boxing message boards on a regular basis to be delusional about your heros skills.
     
  11. KTFO

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    How you can think that a fighter who won 2 times against Mike Tyson wouldn't win against that mummy Marciano?
    Even James Buster Douglas would be able to KO Marciano.
     
  12. SevenSamurai

    SevenSamurai 3 year ESB vet. Full Member

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    I rate a fighter over their entire career, unlike you.

    If you look at Holyfields entire career, then he has displayed major weaknesses and has been beaten too many times to be considered a match for marciano.

    I know from a personal point of view that you hate Marciano. I dont care either way for him, apart from thinking he is over-rated by many like you.

    However, the fact that Holyfield got two good wins over a fading and mentally weak former champion like Tyson does not define his entire career like you are suggesting. If Holyfield had met the 88 Tyson it would have been very different.

    Buster Douglas KO Marciano. Now that is funny.:rofl
     
  13. Bill1234

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    :rofl :rofl :rofl :nut
     
  14. Dempsey1238

    Dempsey1238 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Marciano was a All time Great. Far from the bum you paint him as. On any giving night, He give any one hell.
     
  15. fists of fury

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    I'd rate Marciano above both of them, yes.
    Buster Douglas kicked the **** out of a prime (or close enough) Tyson. Bowe beat Holyfield 2/3.

    "Oh" I hear you say "Tyson wasn't on his game that night." So what? He lost. Marciano, even on an off night, managed to win. He found a way, unlike Mike who could barely find his mouthpiece.

    Holyfield was a great fighter with heart and will to win that rivals Rocky's. It would be a war, but Rocky's immense natural ruggedness and strength would carry the day. (Assuming he was brought into the modern era with contemporary nutritional and training techniques.)

    Back to topic, when Marciano had you hurt it was usually only a matter of time until he got you, but maybe someone like an Ali or Holyfield could survive.