When should have Jones retired?

after 1st tarver fight.

 

after the ruiz fight. he made history in that fight and dominated in the process. as soon as he drained himself, he started getting badly hurt in fights and/or totally knocked out. I have the lurking suspicion that Roy always knew he had weak punch resistance to the head area. that's nothing to be ashamed of, it's totally physiological, but draining himself just opened up the possibility for that to be exposed. Roy was always an arrogant, uber athletic showman, but an all time great? I'm not particularly sold on that. if anything defines his all time greatness, its the ruiz fight

 

Spot on mate:good

 

Tarver 1 or Ruiz

 

Johnson or Tarver 3.

Tarver 2 he was slightly past it and KO'd. No excuses. Everyone's favorites are always shot the minute they lose.

 

I voted after the johnson loss, it was clear then that any hope of him returning to his old form was out the window after that fight.

its easy to say "after the ruiz fight" coz in retrospect we all know what happened, but it definatly would have been a good time to quit as well.

 

Tarver I was a great victory. All his fights had been easy up until then. He showed he could face adversity and win. Then.

 

I think it's fairly cut and dried although it would have been very difficult for him to say goodbye after Ruiz as he was the most sought after fight in the world and Tarver wouldn't shut his face about a fight

 

who cares if its easy to say. every one of these fights are easy to reflect upon, we have the benefit of 20/20 hindsight. just ask yourself the question, how many lower weight fighters have gone up to a much higher weight, won a title, then proceeded to drop a tremendous amount of weight in an effort to regain a lower weight title, and succeeded in that endeavor? not many, if any at all. the fact that he should have retired after the ruiz fight is clear as day

 

He should have gone to cw after the ruiz fight. He could have dominated there for a few years and then retired.

 

to fight who? virgil hill again? who he humiliated? James Toney? the guy he beat convincingly? certainly not wayne braithwaite or mormeck, they weren't worthy of stepping in the ring with him at the time. There were no further heights to achieve for roy after his dominant, career defining victory over ruiz. he should've hung'em up. but hey, thats the story with our greatest champions, isn't it? if it happened to the great sugar ray robinson, it can happen to anyone.

 

as soon as he got off the juice.

 

After the Ruiz fight. He would have had a dominant career and never convincingly lost. There was really nowhere to go for him after beating Ruiz. He couldn't have beaten Lewis and going down in weight again was insane. Nothing at LHW could have topped his KO's of Hill and Griffin. What a career that would have been.

 

Its too easy to say the Ruiz fight, but Roy is a proud man who just wants to fight, an lets face it, in a few years no one is gonna care about his last few fights, who here cares Ali lost to Berbick? Or Leanord to Norris? Or Tyson to Williams an McBride? The mans a Legend an should be remembered for how good he was in his prime