When size is just too much to overcome

This report suguests that it is the thickness of the glove and not the weight that makes a diffrence
http://www.fightnews.com/koizumi456.htm

 

The major difference between Willard ,Carnera and the modern big men eg the Klitschkos and Lewis is TALENT.Jack Dempsey once had a sparring partner over 7 foot tall,Dempsey was notoriously hard on his partners and was in an especially bad mood one day ,he broke the giants jaw and thrashed him unmercifully,I doubt he would have dealt with him so summmarily if he has had a tenth of the ability of a Lennox or a Vitaly.

 

This is a good post. I have seen it this way for years.

 

Thank you, but it's just logical...no great brainwork on my part was required.

(Of course, that doesn't mean tomorrow that I won't pick Rocky over Bowe in a theoretical matchup.)

 

lennox lewis is different from V klitschko. lennox was a great fighter, klitschko was a proven fraud. lennox was a much better all around fighter than vitali. Vitali is another what if, we dont know too much about him going by his resume.


I dont pick walcott over bowe and lennox, but i do see him beating a non great big man like vitali.

 

i agree 100% if a guy like byrd can be successful being a speedster defense type .. why couldn't someone like gene tunny be successful today?.. or if a guy like holyfield who got by on stamina hart ..and a bit of pop with some speed can get by ..why can't a guy like dempsey come out blasting?! ... yeah they weighed 180 then..but with the same proper training and diets we have today ..whose to say they couldn't move up to 200-205 ..maybe even 210-215 in some cases...and still be right

 

I think this is the point that many are trying to make.

Yesterday's good small men have become today's good big men.

I don't think any well-learned boxing fan will disagree with you on the "time transplant" theory -that an early 1900s Klitschko would probably be smaller, while a 2000s Dempsey could be bigger, but the facts are that they are different sizes.

The next time a sub-200 heavyweight puncher comes along, I'll change my opinion.

 

Byrd may have been successful, but I don't think he was all that good. He was a good contender "for the era" but his era was especially weak.

Not saying they couldn't, but "successful" and "great" are two entirely different things. Chris Byrd is not an ATG.

 

Saying Vitlai was a fraud makes you look bad as a poster, Suzie. We know you do not like him, but Vitlai as a genuine contender, and for a while the #1 heavyweight in the world. Such as fighter is never a fraud.