When some fighters lose their 0 and Groves (undefeated confidence)

Probably best to ignore Herol. Others have mentioned him before and advised me. I should have taken advice, as he seems to follow me around

 

They had left SMW before Calzaghe had even won a SMW title. Toney was a CW by then.
Either way I couldnt imagine either of them beating him and neither have great SMW resumes. Who did Toney beat at SMW?

 

After this thread was made. Groves lost to Froch and didnt go all out after him

 

Its possible. I thought the stoppage was a bit quick and didnt think Groves was badly hurt and felt Groves would have gone on. Problem is, nobody will ever know about that first fight. Im glad for them that they got the rematch.
A good example to this is V Klitschko/L Lewis when they fought. Lewis landed a massive uppercut in the round before the finish and people seem to site that, that Lewis was on the verge of a KO, but if the fight had of been stopped on a cut the round before, I expect looking at how the round went, that many would say Lewis was going to be KOd