When the old man almost had it.

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  1. scartissue

    scartissue Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Good pick. The 38 year old Pineda, who was really politically pushed along, got his title shot against a 27 year old Judah and almost pulled it off.
     
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  2. The Fighting Yoda

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    Jeff Harding (24) vs. Dennis Andries (35)
    Andries was ahead on points but Harding knocked him out in the last round. Andries knocked him out in the rematch though, but lost the rubber match via MD.

    Jimmy Ellis (28) vs. Floyd Patterson (33) (WBA Championship)
    Floyd Patterson lost a close and controversial decision after 15 rounds. The crowd booed the decision and the most ringside sportswriters scored the fight for Patterson. Thus, Patterson missed his chance for his third heavyweight title.

    Rocky Marciano (31) vs. Charles (33), 2nd meeting
    Marciano was superior and ahead on points but he suffered bad cuts and a split nose. The fight should actually be stopped (at least that's how it is often reported). Marciano took his last chance and knocked out Charles in round 8.
     
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    Morales v Maidana
     
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  4. surfinghb

    surfinghb Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    trying to get one that passes your criteria .. what about McCallum Toney ,,, Mike was 37 ..11 years older against Prime Toney .. many thought he won in 92 .. or at least the 97 fight .. Mike was ancient
     
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  5. djanders

    djanders Boxing Addict Full Member

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    And, if Floyd had gotten the decision, then we may have seen Frazier vs. Patterson instead of Frazier vs. Ellis. Or ... Liston vs. Patterson 3?
     
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  6. The Fighting Yoda

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    Why Liston vs. Patterson 3?
     
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    Okay, there was a offer for a fight between Liston and Ellis in August 1969. I checked it out now.
     
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  8. djanders

    djanders Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Having the WBA Belt (formerly NBA) was more then - than it is now. I think Sonny needed money badly, and I further believe that Floyd always kind of wanted a 3rd go with the Bear. If he had beaten Ellis, gaining the WBA belt, he would have been in a position of strength to draw a diminished Sonny in, for a big payday, and I think Floyd was a more confident fighter at that point in his career. I'm not saying he would have beaten Liston, for sure, but I think he would have given a much better account of himself, and Floyd finding a way to win was not out of the question ... at that point in time.
     
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  9. scartissue

    scartissue Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Kas, this is a great example. Cotton was 40 years old in 1966 and had turned pro in '47. His record hadn't been much in the last two years but he put up one helluva fight against Torres, losing a close decision (the AP had it a draw). Who would have thought? Not Torres anyway.
     
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  10. scartissue

    scartissue Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Outstanding! A 45 year old Holmes nearly pulled that one off.
     
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    Bonecrusher Smith vs Bruno. Frank was winning the fight easily till The Boneman put his lights out late.
     
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  12. Fergy

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    Cheers pal.
     
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  13. scartissue

    scartissue Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    While looking over everyone's submissions I found another fight that really meets the criteria. Carlos Ortiz v Paolo Rosi. In 1961 Ortiz had to be about the hottest lightweight on the planet. The top contender, who was already a former jr. welterweight champ, was only 25 and would win the lightweight title from Joe Brown in his next fight. So the 33 year old Rosi, who had been having mixed results recently and a long career of badly cut eyes seemed to be a safe opponent. Well Rosi fought his heart out, cut Ortiz over both eyes, dropped him hard in the 9th and had the MSG audience booing the competitive decision for Ortiz. This is exactly what I'm talking about.
     
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  14. NoNeck

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    Norton—Holmes
    Foreman—Briggs
     
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  15. robert ungurean

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    Holy Valuev
     
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