When Tyson asked Holyfield for additional testing

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  1. JASPER

    JASPER Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Interesting article I found;

    From the book "The Holyfield Way"


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    "There was a prior hint of this defeatist attitude a few weeks earlier when Marc Ratner, the executive director of the Nevada State Athletic Commission, called to tell me that Tyson would not fight Evander, unless he took a steroid test.

    This did not bother me at all, because I knew with certainty from many talks with Evander on this topic, that he had never used steroids. Evander told me some people urged him to use steroids, especially when moving up to the heavyweight division.

    Evander always refused for one reason: he would never have known whether he could have done it without the steroids. I wasn't worried about the test, and I knew a refusal would be taken as evidence of guilt.

    On the other hand, Tyson had no propable cause to request such a test and absolutely no right to require one as a condition for the fight going forward. I discussed this with Evander, who came up with a brillant solution. He said that he would take the test provided that the results would not be revealed to Tyson, until after the fight"

    Holyfield-"I laughed when Tyson was demanding that I take a steroid test. I saw Tyson's look when he saw me with my shirt off at the weigh- in for the last fight. He couldn't believe how big and muscular I had become from how hard I trained. I knew he must have convinced himself that I had won the fight cheating somehow, because he couldn't face the fact that I was just stronger than him. I was happy to take a steroid test, because I have never used steroids in my life, but I didn't want Tyson to have comfort of knowing that I was not using steroids. I wanted Tyson to continue to think that I had an unfair advantage over him so he would give himself an excuse for losing again."

    Take the above from Evander's book for what its worth. I think we can kind of see both sides of the coin with these statements.
    I posted this so many can quit complaining about how it has NEVER been done before. But as we see, it HAS been and it happened in NEVADA..we can also seen both arguments in his book

    So according to the PACQUIAO supporters arguments, I guess IRON MIKE TYSON was a coward and didnt want the fight.!!!!

    BTW, Holyfield never tested positive for steroids prior to this fight.

    Tyson was asking for a new precedent with the type of testing he was requesting, similar to what Floyd is asking of Manny. as ways to evade the testing evolve, so does the testing, it doesnt matter what kind of testing it was, as 1996 is not 2010.
     
  2. TheVrominator

    TheVrominator Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Evan Fields.
    That is all.
     
  3. JASPER

    JASPER Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Yeah, I know but even so he rolled up his sleeve
     
  4. YCGS

    YCGS Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Ok... but Tyson also admitted to being high on coke during fights and using a fake p*nis for passing urine tests. So really it doesn't mean much.
     
  5. boxing_master

    boxing_master Loyal Member banned

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    Epic fail end of thread
     
  6. Sugar 88

    Sugar 88 Woke Moralist-In-Chief

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    I though it was pretty much accepted that Evander was a steroid cheat due to the decent amount of evidence suggesting he was.

    Same deal with Sugar Shane.
     
  7. Rock0052

    Rock0052 Loyal Member Full Member

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    He took the test and juiced anyways.

    Great lesson.
     
  8. TheVrominator

    TheVrominator Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Honestly I agree he may not have been using at the time he fought Tyson.....but he almost certainly did late in his career when he was on the slide with the Balco and Signature Pharmacy links. I wouldn't take anything Holyfield says at face value.
     
  9. 5_Burowz

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    No doubt in my mind Holy juiced
     
  10. JASPER

    JASPER Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    But he still took the test!
     
  11. JASPER

    JASPER Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Why
     
  12. rossle

    rossle Active Member Full Member

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    Holyfield has at the very least admitting purchasing steroids. Although he wants us to belive it was for his father!

    There is all the anecdotal evidence like syptoms of somoene whos abusing HGH like the Hypogonadism (shrinking bollocks) the heart problems etc.

    Holyfield is a cheat and those that listen and belive his drivel are morons. I think all his church and bible bashing is a cloak to divert any negative thoughts about him. Bit like Jimmy Saviles charity work.
     
  13. JAB5239

    JAB5239 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Holyfield has never been caught, but all the circumstantial evidence leads me to believe he juiced. Unless ever convicted of cheating though his achievements should stand unscathed. There are many fighters I think have juiced. With no proof though they shouldn't be labled a cheat. Jmo.
     
  14. JASPER

    JASPER Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Whether you believe he was a cheat or not he still manned up and did additional testing:deal
     
  15. boxing_master

    boxing_master Loyal Member banned

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    i know your game buddy your trying to insinuate that pacuqaio shouldnt of refused the testing and your trying to justify the biggest duck in history which is void ducking pacquaio
    :lol: