When was B-Hops prime as a fighter?

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  1. PugilisticPower

    PugilisticPower The Blonde Batman Full Member

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    The recent victories and performances of B-Hop after his 40th birthday have been nothing short of amazing and arguably more amazing than any of his performances prior to that date.

    Many point at the losses to Taylor and Calzaghe and say B-Hop was no longer within his prime as a fighter and therefore discredit/discount these performances by each fighter.

    My personal opinion is that B-Hop was in his prime from the ages of 38-43 where he collected wins against ODLH, Pavlik, Tarver, Wright and managed to gain all four titles at MW before moving up to LHW and taking the major belt at that division.

    When do you think he was in his prime?
     
  2. cesare-borgia

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  3. BigReg

    BigReg Broad Street Bully Full Member

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    I disagree. By that logic, Michael Jordan was in his prime at 35 when The Bulls won their 6th title and Jordan led the league in scoring. Perorming at a high level doesn't mean that you're in your prime. I think Hopkins' prime was from around the age of 27 until about 33.
     
  4. PugilisticPower

    PugilisticPower The Blonde Batman Full Member

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    So, 30 to 39 - beat ODLH, Trinidad, Joppy, Eastman, Johnson, unified titles - lost to Jermain Taylor.
     
  5. hussleman

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  6. PugilisticPower

    PugilisticPower The Blonde Batman Full Member

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    Performing at a high level and being the "best" in the business is your prime, otherwise we make up areas where we think Hopkins was a better fighter.

    Many people forget, Hopkins dramatically changed his style after the Echols fights and became less of an aggressive come forward fighter into the more defensive, counter focused style he is now well known for.

    Personally I feel the come forward fighter was easier to beat than the fighter he is now - sure, if you married his endurance/energy with the power he used to show with the fight style and skill he has now, he's a beat.

    But he wasn't as skillful at 30 as he was at 40, he'll admit that himself.
     
  7. doomeddisciple

    doomeddisciple Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Agreed.
     
  8. techks

    techks ATG list Killah! Full Member

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    95-03. Mercado II-Joppy. He's still in his mental prime but physically he's obviously not as sharp as he was when he was younger. Arguably the greatest overall past prime fighter of all time.
     
  9. Commando

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    If he was easier to beat than the fighter he would "become" how come he lost twice to taylor?

    A prime Hopkins from 96-02 would beat Jermain Taylor no doubt in my mind.
     
  10. PugilisticPower

    PugilisticPower The Blonde Batman Full Member

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    Rephrase it in your minds.

    Which version of Hopkins would win a fight?

    The 25-35 year old or the 35-45 year old?

    The come forward boxer puncher, who didn't clinch in exchanges and often out worked the fighters he fought against before knocking them out.

    vs

    The cagey, defensive focused fighter who worked off counter punching opportunities, looked to use his boxing rather than power to take him to victory and outlast opponents.

    Me personally? I'd have Hopkins between 38-43 beating any other version of Hopkins.
     
  11. TheGOAT

    TheGOAT The Champ is Here ! banned

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    Technically he is in his prime now. Beating up on the Ghost of Roy Jones may not count, otherwise he is pretty badAZZ. BHop a G.
     
  12. bballchump11

    bballchump11 2011 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    He should have agreed to 60/40 and fought Jones back around 2000
     
  13. techks

    techks ATG list Killah! Full Member

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    Exactly. Jordan wasn't prime in the late 90's during the last few years of Bulls' ring dominance but was smooth as hell and still very talented. Back to boxing, Hopkins performed at a high level quite a bit past prime(Tarver, Pascal series, Pavlik).
     
  14. Commando

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    You can't rephrase it like that, because no other boxer is like Bernard Hopkins, so he never would be facing himself in a fight dumbass. :patsch